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  • Mofra
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2006
    • 14979

    #31
    Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

    Originally posted by Bulldog Revolution
    Greenwood is quite a good player but he doesn't add the speed or kicking skill we need

    Do we really need an inside mid?
    I'm not sure his skill set is what we lack, but he is quality - effectively a Boyd upgrade at this stage of their respective careers.
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    • always right
      WOOF Member
      • Nov 2007
      • 4189

      #32
      Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

      He's a clearance specialist with running ability, an adequate left foot kick, and a smart footballer. Yes please.
      I thought I was wrong once but I was mistaken.

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #33
        Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

        Add what AR and Mofra said and that's Greenwood. For a second round pick he's a no-brainer.

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        • hujsh
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2007
          • 11849

          #34
          Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

          Originally posted by Mofra
          You're ignoring the "feeder club" hypothesis which, if you look at what has happened between us and Melbourne over the past few years, is a distinct possibility.

          We've just developed Jones for 6 years for nothing. Tutt may make it at another club.
          Jones and Tutt are not good examples of this. Losing players like Ward and Harbrow is what happens to feeder clubs. If we were Geelong or Hawthorne losing Jones and Tutt would be seen as players leaving for opportunities because they couldn't get a game with us. They are 50/50 at best to make it in the AFL and it wasn't looking likely here
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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            #35
            Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

            Originally posted by chef
            We do need as many quality footballers as possible.
            Not if they are running around in the seconds because their isn't a position for them though. We have got plenty of inside kids and I though our obvious focus should be a KP forward and KP back.

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            • F'scary
              WOOF Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 4089

              #36
              Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

              Originally posted by always right
              He's a clearance specialist with running ability, an adequate left foot kick, and a smart footballer. Yes please.
              That would mean from Norf we get Greenwood, from us they get Higgins & pick 26. I don't know about it when I look at it from this angle. Feels like we are helping them too much. Also, Greenwood has had one good year as I understand it, 2014. Probably, he has "come of age" but... Finally, I think our first three precious picks need to go on KP players or to fix manifest deficiencies. Greenwood would be competing with Libba Jnr, Macrae, Hrovat, Wallis, Smith, Griffen, Boyd & Cooney for the five dedicated midfield positions (2xW, C, RR, R). Getting the ball hasn't been our biggest problem.
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              • Twodogs
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 27658

                #37
                Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

                Originally posted by Bulldog Revolution
                Greenwood is quite a good player but he doesn't add the speed or kicking skill we need

                Do we really need an inside mid?
                Libba is our one pure inside clearance monster. Jong might be another. I think we could do with one more because if Libba isn't in the middle we get beaten at the clearance most times.
                They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                • azabob
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 15334

                  #38
                  Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

                  Originally posted by Twodogs
                  Libba is our one pure inside clearance monster. Jong might be another. I think we could do with one more because if Libba isn't in the middle we get beaten at the clearance most times.
                  Apart from Smith - but who knows how he'll end up.
                  More of an In Bruges guy?

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                  • F'scary
                    WOOF Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 4089

                    #39
                    Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

                    On the wisdom of further delistings and recruiting delisted free agents, I think it would be worth taking a chance on one or two recylings for specific needs by delisting Pearce or Fuller who seem to be permanent reserves players only and of a type we have plenty of anyway.

                    For example, one or two injuries and we could be down to Cordy all by himself for the ruck. Could delisted Port ruckman Brent Renouf be a more useful occupier of a spot on the list than Fuller or Pearce? Or how about Angus Graham, another big ruck at 27yo with 48 games experience? Or Shaun McKernan, 24yo 196cm 99kg KPF/Ruck delisted by Adelaide?
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                    • The Underdog
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 6879

                      #40
                      Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

                      Originally posted by F'scary
                      On the wisdom of further delistings and recruiting delisted free agents, I think it would be worth taking a chance on one or two recylings for specific needs by delisting Pearce or Fuller who seem to be permanent reserves players only and of a type we have plenty of anyway.

                      For example, one or two injuries and we could be down to Cordy all by himself for the ruck. Could delisted Port ruckman Brent Renouf be a more useful occupier of a spot on the list than Fuller or Pearce? Or how about Angus Graham, another big ruck at 27yo with 48 games experience? Or Shaun McKernan, 24yo 196cm 99kg KPF/Ruck delisted by Adelaide?
                      If Daniel Pearce's only role is to keep Graham off of our list then he's worth it
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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34289

                        #41
                        Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

                        I think we need a mature ruckman for depth. Only on this basis if McKernan was better than a state league recruit, I'd look at him.

                        God no to Graham, I just couldn't stand another tall outright shit player. McKernan is close granted, but not Graham.
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                        • Remi Moses
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 14785

                          #42
                          Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

                          Originally posted by Mofra
                          You're ignoring the "feeder club" hypothesis which, if you look at what has happened between us and Melbourne over the past few years, is a distinct possibility.

                          We've just developed Jones for 6 years for nothing. Tutt may make it at another club.
                          They're going to teams who are challenging for a flag. ( not sure on Norf)
                          Tutt and Jones couldn't get a gig at the 14th placed team, and both have major flaws in their games.
                          Just because we develop them doesn't necessary mean they're going to get there.

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34289

                            #43
                            Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

                            Hawks have signed Frawley, the video was accidentally loaded on their website today.

                            I'd have a crack at Schoenmakers. Frawley, Lake, Gibson, Sphanger, Hodge and a heap of tall enough players he might struggle for a game. Maybe he wants a rolled gold opportunity to play as a CHB (and be bombarded for 2 hours every week)?
                            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                            • Hot_Doggies
                              Rookie List
                              • May 2009
                              • 396

                              #44
                              Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              Hawks have signed Frawley, the video was accidentally loaded on their website today.

                              I'd have a crack at Schoenmakers. Frawley, Lake, Gibson, Sphanger, Hodge and a heap of tall enough players he might struggle for a game. Maybe he wants a rolled gold opportunity to play as a CHB (and be bombarded for 2 hours every week)?
                              Schoenmakers!?!

                              You kidding BT?

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                              • chef
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 14634

                                #45
                                Re: Where to with Trade/Draft Strategy from Here?

                                Originally posted by Petergm
                                Not if they are running around in the seconds because their isn't a position for them though. We have got plenty of inside kids and I though our obvious focus should be a KP forward and KP back.
                                Greenwoods an all round mid, we wouldn't struggle to fit him into our best 22.
                                The curse is dead.

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