Operation get Jake Carlisle

[jeemak]

Re: Operation get Jake Carlisle

It also needs to be something Will agrees to.

He is contracted for 2016.

You would think that if moving to EFC and playing senior football versus staying with us and playing in the reserves was an option for Will he'd be taking the latter - if playing football was what he wanted to do.

Adding Carlisle to defence frees Roughead to contribute in the ruck as well, making Will's position all the more difficult to earn back.

[1eyedog]

Re: Operation get Jake Carlisle

It also needs to be something Will agrees to.

He is contracted for 2016.

And therein lies the problem trying to get Carlisle. Who in their right mind would want to go to Essendon to play football at the moment? They have a serious issue with their brand at the moment.

[Bulldog Joe]

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And therein lies the problem trying to get Carlisle. Who in their right mind would want to go to Essendon to play football at the moment? They have a serious issue with their brand at the moment.

This is the point I was looking at.

Although Will has done some charity work with Heppell, so it may suit him.

[westdog54]

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James Hird, he is the bastion of truthfulness. He once won a pedigree dog in a truth telling contest two towns over.

Surely there were more than three of us that got the bleedingly obvious Simpsons reference here?

well played sir.

You would think that if moving to EFC and playing senior football versus staying with us and playing in the reserves was an option for Will he'd be taking the latter - if playing football was what he wanted to do.

Adding Carlisle to defence frees Roughead to contribute in the ruck as well, making Will's position all the more difficult to earn back.

Could be a win-win for Will that prolongs his career another two or 3 years

[Greystache]

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And therein lies the problem trying to get Carlisle. Who in their right mind would want to go to Essendon to play football at the moment? They have a serious issue with their brand at the moment.

I look at Goddard and think who'd want that to be him? He's in a horrendous environment, has a cult leader instead of a coach, and gets rolled out in front of the media every week because he's one of the few not tarred by the doping program. No amount of money is worth that (compared to what they'd earn at an alternative club).

Given the WADA appeal won't be heard before the trade period in all likelihood, you'd have to think only a player with no other options would go to Essendon i.e. McKernan. I see Minson having more options, including staying with us and taking his chances.

[Bornadog]

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I look at Goddard and think who'd want that to be him? He's in a horrendous environment, has a cult leader instead of a coach, and gets rolled out in front of the media every week because he's one of the few not tarred by the doping program. No amount of money is worth that (compared to what they'd earn at an alternative club).

Given the WADA appeal won't be heard before the trade period in all likelihood, you'd have to think only a player with no other options would go to Essendon i.e. McKernan. I see Minson having more options, including staying with us and taking his chances.

If Carlisle wants to come to us, what would you offer in a deal?

[Greystache]

Re: Operation get Jake Carlisle

If Carlisle wants to come to us, what would you offer in a deal?

Unless a player actually wants to go, draft picks. I can't think of many players who'd have so little currency on our list they'd go to Essendon. Out of contract with some form of trade value? Talia and Grant perhaps, but I think Talia at least would have other options. Cordy maybe but he'd only be a sweetener.

Clubs will be reluctant to take Carlisle against his will mind you. He's looks a very average player when he's not happy, so Essendon would want to be careful about playing hardball, he could end up in the PSD.

[Bulldog4life]

Re: Operation get Jake Carlisle

I keep hearing that Jake is coming here. Sources aren't always right but they are usually pretty good. There is a lot of talk about him so it's hard to weed out the BS. Stevo is usually pretty accurate with Dogs news so I'm not putting much into what I was told and I'll lean towards what he says.

I thought Stevo said Carlisle was a lock to go to Carlton!

[boydogs]

Re: Operation get Jake Carlisle

Essendon need a ruck man. Big Will and 2nd round pick for Carlisle? I wouldn't want Will to go - I reckon he's part of the fabric of our club. But surely this will at a minimum be thrown up during trade week.

I think if we get Carlisle we should trade Talia. Maybe a 3-way

[Bornadog]

Re: Operation get Jake Carlisle

I thought Stevo said Carlisle was a lock to go to Carlton!

Doesn't mean it's correct

[G-Mo77]

Re: Operation get Jake Carlisle

I thought Stevo said Carlisle was a lock to go to Carlton!

Yeah that's what I meant to say in my post. I keep getting told that he's coming here but Stevo's quote about Carlton makes me think it may not be happening.

[Bornadog]

Re: Operation get Jake Carlisle

Yeah that's what I meant to say in my post. I keep getting told that he's coming here but Stevo's quote about Carlton makes me think it may not be happening.

If you were Carlisle where would you rather play.

[Bulldog Joe]

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Yeah that's what I meant to say in my post. I keep getting told that he's coming here but Stevo's quote about Carlton makes me think it may not be happening.

Maybe Stevo's was just looking out for our interest and trying to dampen the enthusiasm.

[GVGjr]

Re: Operation get Jake Carlisle

If Carlisle wants to come to us, what would you offer in a deal?

Speculation time:

If he genuinely wanted to come I think we would have to use our first round pick in a creative way to get Essendon to agree:

- We cough up our first round pick and get Carlisle and their 2nd round pick.
That gives us a KPD and 2 x 2nd round picks. Essendon has 2 x 1st round picks which isn't bad for a team that has lost some first round picks.

What I think they would try for is:

- We cough up our first round pick and swap 2nd and 3rd round selections with Essendon
That would give us a KPD and an improved position in the each of those rounds.

They won't make it easy on us and I'd prefer not to deal with them.

While Carlisle appears to be the right sort of player we should target, I'm not convinced he would be a great player for us.

[Rocco Jones]

Re: Operation get Jake Carlisle

Not a big fan of Carislie seemingly being so unhappy to play outside his ideal role. Seems a bit, I don't know, like what a 5 year old would do.