Operation get Jake Carlisle

[1eyedog]

Re: Operation get Jake Carlisle

Do you believe he is capable of rucking game after game at a good level? Based on what we have seen I'm a little surprised why so many think he could hold down the number one spot.
If he was better as a forward then a Campbell and Roughead combination might work well but I think he has been far more productive as a key defender.

I'm confident he can ruck and he adds value that he can go forward and kick goals. I'm not confident he can ruck week after week for the next few years but I'm yet to be convinced that he can't. Given our sordid ruck stocks I'm not entirely sure where I sit with it. Do you believe Roughie is too good down back to be wasted in the ruck?

[GVGjr]

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I'm confident he can ruck and he adds value that he can go forward and kick goals. I'm not confident he can ruck week after week for the next few years but I'm yet to be convinced that he can't. Given our sordid ruck stocks I'm not entirely sure where I sit with it. Do you believe Roughie is too good down back to be wasted in the ruck?

I think he is injury prone when he is asked to ruck a lot and would prefer him to be used as a defender with a few 5 minute bursts during a game. He can ruck the occasional game but I couldn't see him getting through a 6 or 7 week stint at a good level. Happy to be proven wrong.

I think he is a solid defender and a good leader and would prefer to see him on the ground more than off it.

[LostDoggy]

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I think he is injury prone when he is asked to ruck a lot and would prefer him to be used as a defender with a few 5 minute bursts during a game. He can ruck the occasional game but I couldn't see him getting through a 6 or 7 week stint at a good level. Happy to be proven wrong.

I think he is a solid defender and a good leader and would prefer to see him on the ground more than off it.

I agree with this. For a couple of weeks we used Roughy as the key defender/second ruck. Basically followed the tall forward who is also the opposition second ruckmen when he goes into the ruck. I think that is his best role in our side.

[LostDoggy]

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I agree with this. For a couple of weeks we used Roughy as the key defender/second ruck. Basically followed the tall forward who is also the opposition second ruckmen when he goes into the ruck. I think that is his best role in our side.

I reckon the way we set up under Bevo, this can only work if the first ruck can fill in for Roughy when he swaps over. Our team defence play as a unit, having your lynch pin in and out of the unit intermittently through the match is not the way to go.

[Greystache]

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I reckon the way we set up under Bevo, this can only work if the first ruck can fill in for Roughy when he swaps over. Our team defence play as a unit, having your lynch pin in and out of the unit intermittently through the match is not the way to go.

Players rotate constantly on and off the bench through out a game. There'd barely be a time where we'd have the same combination of 6 players in defence at same time.

[LostDoggy]

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Not guys like Hamling and Morris who are the lynch pins of the structure.

[1eyedog]

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I think he is injury prone when he is asked to ruck a lot and would prefer him to be used as a defender with a few 5 minute bursts during a game. He can ruck the occasional game but I couldn't see him getting through a 6 or 7 week stint at a good level. Happy to be proven wrong.

I think he is a solid defender and a good leader and would prefer to see him on the ground more than off it.

Fair enough. I still think he's good enough to play there and he wants to play there so it feels like we're robbing Peter to play Paul by not trying it because of the risk he may get injured. Doesn't make sense to me.

[LostDoggy]

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North supporters are pretty confident of getting him. Apparently NM and Carlton main players for him.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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So Carlisle has said he wants out of Bombers. He hasn't nominated a club yet which suggests to me its a club in the finals currently. Perhaps Norf? Brad Scott sounded confident in press conference a few weeks ago. I still maintain he would be a very good addition for us - a key defender which is a weakness for us and still young.

I'd hope we haven't completely ruled it out either. For the right price he'd be a handy addition to our back half given we still rely so much on Morris (and other older heads) with a bare cupboard in quality KPDs.

[Bornadog]

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This is funny

Titus O'Reily @TitusOReily
Jake Carlisle gave no warning he was going to leave Essendon, except for telling every opposition player in the last few months.

[Greystache]

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Slobbo tweeting Essendon will get a first and second rounder for whoever gets Carlisle

And in other equally unsurprising news, James Hird reportedly didn't see Carlisle's leaving coming.

[LostDoggy]

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Slobbo tweeting Essendon will get a first and second rounder for whoever gets Carlisle

And in other equally unsurprising news, James Hird reportedly didn't see Carlisle's leaving coming.

Slobbo really lets himself down with his Essendon bias.

[Sedat]

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Slobbo tweeting Essendon will get a first and second rounder for whoever gets Carlisle

And in other equally unsurprising news, James Hird reportedly didn't see Carlisle's leaving coming.

He'll end up going to Carlton for pick 1 in the PSD precisely because Essendon will demand Carlton's 1st and 2nd round pick as well as Cripps. Suck it up Slobbo.

Oh and Slobbo, "the players loved Hird" - that's why they were ten times more competitive as soon as that dead wood was cut adrift

[Ghost Dog]

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Rohan Conolly, supposedly an Essendon supporter wrote in an article that Essendon are too much trouble to deal with during trade period. Hopefully it's true!

[azabob]

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Rohan Conolly, supposedly an Essendon supporter wrote in an article that Essendon are too much trouble to deal with during trade period. Hopefully it's true!

They are. It is well known. But why do you hope its true?