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  • westdog54
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jan 2007
    • 6686

    #31
    Re: Our Worrying Defence



    Watch this video and try telling me our backline isn't on the right track.

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    • dukedog
      WOOF Member
      • Dec 2014
      • 355

      #32
      Re: Our Worrying Defence

      I know they are just highlights. Of course the ball got through easy at times. But. Easily the best defensive structure i have seen in a while from the boys. I remember back in 2008-09 when bobby was playing forward and was a sniper on goal. but he is just a well rounded footaballer. oozes class. his articles arn't half bad either. Just to add my 2c .... i think some of the guys that asked for trades did the club a favour. bar Griffen i think the rest were under performing in a walk up spot in the 22. looking at the list now. The boys know that if they dont put in . they wont get a game under bevo

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      • Eastdog
        WOOF Communtiy Organiser
        • Feb 2012
        • 18298

        #33
        Re: Our Worrying Defence

        I thought despite us conceding a lot more goals yesterday our defence tried hard and it didn't help losing Dale Morris who I thought was very good. Will be good to get Easton Wood's run back when he comes back in the side. Disappointing we didn't shut down Issac Smith from them a bit more. How did posters rate Roughy's game yesterday?
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        • jazzadogs
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Oct 2008
          • 5665

          #34
          Re: Our Worrying Defence

          I think our defence was actually on top in many areas yesterday.

          Gunston, Breust, Rioli and Puopolo had minimal impact on the game, well controlled by a team defence (Picken, Webb, Johannisen)
          It may sound stupid, but I think Roughead/Talia competed and often beat Roughead/resting talls. Despite Jarryd finishing with 7 goals, most of these were directly from midfield turnovers where our guys were up field providing options for their teammates.
          The biggest area where our defence faltered was the counter-attacking run, particularly our skills. Murphy was especially disappointing, but really it was just effective pressure from the Hawks and poor presenting from our forwards.

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34289

            #35
            Re: Our Worrying Defence

            Recruit May from GCS. Put him in FB with Talia at CHB. Wood and Bob as support. Use Roughy as a ruck, back or 2nd forward as the games dictate.

            Hamling, Kelly, Roberts, Zaine developing.

            Simple.
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            • azabob
              Hall of Fame
              • Sep 2008
              • 15335

              #36
              Re: Our Worrying Defence

              Well BT, you are our number two recruiter...
              More of an In Bruges guy?

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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34289

                #37
                Re: Our Worrying Defence

                Originally posted by azabob
                Well BT, you are our number two recruiter...
                Number 2... I masterminded the Boyd deal as you know. Surely that makes me number 1?

                But to the point, I'm just working out who we can get currency with to trade them. They need some inside grunt, so I'm trying to work out who they'd want and then who'd we give... It could be an Ottens like trade for us.
                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66843

                  #38
                  Re: Our Worrying Defence

                  Originally posted by jazzadogs
                  I think our defence was actually on top in many areas yesterday.

                  Gunston, Breust, Rioli and Puopolo had minimal impact on the game, well controlled by a team defence (Picken, Webb, Johannisen)
                  It may sound stupid, but I think Roughead/Talia competed and often beat Roughead/resting talls. Despite Jarryd finishing with 7 goals, most of these were directly from midfield turnovers where our guys were up field providing options for their teammates.
                  The biggest area where our defence faltered was the counter-attacking run, particularly our skills. Murphy was especially disappointing, but really it was just effective pressure from the Hawks and poor presenting from our forwards.
                  We had more rebound 50s than Hawthorn, but just didn't use the ball well enough.
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                  • G-Mo77
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9877

                    #39
                    Re: Our Worrying Defence

                    6 - 8 weeks for Morris. Huge blow but m good chance for someone to have a long stint at AFL level. Hamling and Roberts need to grab this chance with bith hands.

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                    • boydogs
                      WOOF Member
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 5844

                      #40
                      Re: Our Worrying Defence

                      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                      But to the point, I'm just working out who we can get currency with to trade them. They need some inside grunt, so I'm trying to work out who they'd want and then who'd we give... It could be an Ottens like trade for us.
                      We've had our CHF subbed off in the first 2 weeks saved only by injury in the 3rd, and you think our Ottens trade is for a defender?
                      If you kicked five goals and Tom Boyd kicked five goals, Tom Boyd kicked more goals than you.

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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66843

                        #41
                        Re: Our Worrying Defence

                        Originally posted by G-Mo77
                        6 - 8 weeks for Morris. Huge blow but m good chance for someone to have a long stint at AFL level. Hamling and Roberts need to grab this chance with bith hands.
                        I would like to see Hamling in for Morris. Hamling is more your third tall and not a KPP at this stage.

                        Roberts can replace Cordy up forward.
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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34289

                          #42
                          Re: Our Worrying Defence

                          Originally posted by boydogs
                          We've had our CHF subbed off in the first 2 weeks saved only by injury in the 3rd, and you think our Ottens trade is for a defender?
                          Yep. Two genuine key backs (May and Talia) and a string of tall defenders (Hamling, Roberts, Cordy, Kelly, Wood, Bob, Biggs). Allowing Roughead to play back if needed, or ruck, or CH forward or be our swing man. He was a gun young ruck, and has shown some limitations as a KPD but could have good match ups. I think Roughy & Boyd could be a good tag team. I think our coach would love a ruckman that is dangerous around the ground and can mark, can take a big tall defender or go down back to help the unit if he's needed. We need an experienced ruckman next year, and getting a gun junior ruck with games and seasons wouldn't be cheap, and we could have one. That to me is worth thinking about, seriously.
                          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 66843

                            #43
                            Re: Our Worrying Defence

                            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                            Yep. Two genuine key backs (May and Talia) and a string of tall defenders (Hamling, Roberts, Cordy, Kelly, Wood, Bob, Biggs). Allowing Roughead to play back if needed, or ruck, or CH forward or be our swing man. He was a gun young ruck, and has shown some limitations as a KPD but could have good match ups. I think Roughy & Boyd could be a good tag team. I think our coach would love a ruckman that is dangerous around the ground and can mark, can take a big tall defender or go down back to help the unit if he's needed. We need an experienced ruckman next year, and getting a gun junior ruck with games and seasons wouldn't be cheap, and we could have one. That to me is worth thinking about, seriously.

                            I like your thinking. We need Roberts to start showing something and we can implement this in the next 5 to 10 weeks.
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                            • Before I Die
                              Senior Player
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 1032

                              #44
                              Re: Our Worrying Defence

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              I would like to see Hamling in for Morris. Hamling is more your third tall and not a KPP at this stage.

                              Roberts can replace Cordy up forward.
                              I don't understand why this keeps getting said. He has been playing CHB in the Footscray practice games and CHB on Saturday, and has been doing a good job. He is 194cm and over 90kg. He has a good leap, reads the ball well and is a strong mark. Of course he is a CHB.
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                              • comrade
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Jun 2008
                                • 18047

                                #45
                                Re: Our Worrying Defence

                                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                                Yep. Two genuine key backs (May and Talia) and a string of tall defenders (Hamling, Roberts, Cordy, Kelly, Wood, Bob, Biggs). Allowing Roughead to play back if needed, or ruck, or CH forward or be our swing man. He was a gun young ruck, and has shown some limitations as a KPD but could have good match ups. I think Roughy & Boyd could be a good tag team. I think our coach would love a ruckman that is dangerous around the ground and can mark, can take a big tall defender or go down back to help the unit if he's needed. We need an experienced ruckman next year, and getting a gun junior ruck with games and seasons wouldn't be cheap, and we could have one. That to me is worth thinking about, seriously.
                                This would be a dream result.

                                Releasing Roughy up the field would really set us up like Hawthorn does.

                                If we could snare a gun key back AND add some more mid field polish, we're *almost* set.
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