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  • Ozza
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Mar 2008
    • 6400

    Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

    So Toby has now played 6 games for us....the way he plays - it certainly seems like more.

    If you forget his first game - where he was a sub and only came on for the last quarter or so from memory -

    In the 5 full games he has played - he is averaging 20.2 possessions, and 6.2 marks per game - as well as 0.8 goals per game.

    Its an extraordinarily successful start to his career, and in the absence of Dicko and Crameri - he's been a very important player for us already this season.

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    • The Bulldogs Bite
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2006
      • 11244

      Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

      Originally posted by Ozza
      So Toby has now played 6 games for us....the way he plays - it certainly seems like more.

      If you forget his first game - where he was a sub and only came on for the last quarter or so from memory -

      In the 5 full games he has played - he is averaging 20.2 possessions, and 6.2 marks per game - as well as 0.8 goals per game.

      Its an extraordinarily successful start to his career, and in the absence of Dicko and Crameri - he's been a very important player for us already this season.
      Good call.

      I've been raving about him to a few friends on exactly that: averaging 20 disposals is a fantastic effort from a young kid who isn't getting a heap of press just yet.

      Does most things well, liking him jumping for marks because it's a strength of his.
      W00F!

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      • Maddog37
        WOOF Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 3132

        Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

        Looks a very intense and driven young man.

        Needs to stop looping his kicks quite so much.

        A natural footballer clearly and so competitive against multiple opponents at once which is amazing for his lack of experience. Anyone know how he is as an endurance athlete?

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66687

          Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

          Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
          Good call.

          I've been raving about him to a few friends on exactly that: averaging 20 disposals is a fantastic effort from a young kid who isn't getting a heap of press just yet.

          Does most things well, liking him jumping for marks because it's a strength of his.
          How was the mark over Bruce last week - he can get up high.
          FFC: Established 1883

          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • comrade
            Hall of Fame
            • Jun 2008
            • 18026

            Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

            Originally posted by Maddog37
            Looks a very intense and driven young man.

            Needs to stop looping his kicks quite so much.

            A natural footballer clearly and so competitive against multiple opponents at once which is amazing for his lack of experience. Anyone know how he is as an endurance athlete?
            Yep, really like the fact that he'll attack the ball in the air against multiple defenders just to make it a contest. With Crameri unavailable and Dickson injured, he is vital to our forward line structure.
            Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34289

              Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

              Toby McLean 2016 rankings against other qualifying rising stars:

              Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Total Kicks
              Ranked 9th among rising stars in Total Handballs
              Ranked 5th among rising stars in Total Disposals
              Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Total Marks
              Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Total Goals
              Ranked 5th among rising stars in Total Supercoach Score
              Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Total AFL Fantasy Score
              Ranked 6th among rising stars in Total Contested Possessions
              Ranked 4th among rising stars in Total Uncontested Possessions
              Ranked 5th among rising stars in Total Effective Disposals
              Ranked 4th among rising stars in Total Contested Marks
              Ranked 9th among rising stars in Total Clearances
              Ranked 1st among rising stars in Total Bounces
              Ranked 4th among rising stars in Kicks Per Game
              Ranked 7th among rising stars in Disposals Per Game
              Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Marks Per Game
              Ranked 6th among rising stars in Goals Per Game
              Ranked 7th among rising stars in Supercoach Score Per Game
              Ranked 3rd among rising stars in AFL Fantasy Score Per Game
              Ranked 9th among rising stars in Contested Possessions Per Game
              Ranked 7th among rising stars in Uncontested Possessions Per Game
              Ranked 6th among rising stars in Effective Disposals Per Game
              Ranked 5th among rising stars in Contested Marks Per Game
              Last edited by bulldogtragic; 15-04-2016, 01:03 PM.
              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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              • comrade
                Hall of Fame
                • Jun 2008
                • 18026

                Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

                Love him, and love his ability to suck opponents into ripping his head off.

                He's flying under the radar a little but his performances in the absence of Dickson and Crameri have been crucial.
                Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                • F'scary
                  WOOF Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 4089

                  Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

                  Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                  Toby McLean 2016 rankings against other qualifying rI sing stars:

                  Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Total Kicks
                  Ranked 9th among rising stars in Total Handballs
                  Ranked 5th among rising stars in Total Disposals
                  Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Total Marks
                  Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Total Goals
                  Ranked 5th among rising stars in Total Supercoach Score
                  Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Total AFL Fantasy Score
                  Ranked 6th among rising stars in Total Contested Possessions
                  Ranked 4th among rising stars in Total Uncontested Possessions
                  Ranked 5th among rising stars in Total Effective Disposals
                  Ranked 4th among rising stars in Total Contested Marks
                  Ranked 9th among rising stars in Total Clearances
                  Ranked 1st among rising stars in Total Bounces
                  Ranked 4th among rising stars in Kicks Per Game
                  Ranked 7th among rising stars in Disposals Per Game
                  Ranked 3rd among rising stars in Marks Per Game
                  Ranked 6th among rising stars in Goals Per Game
                  Ranked 7th among rising stars in Supercoach Score Per Game
                  Ranked 3rd among rising stars in AFL Fantasy Score Per Game
                  Ranked 9th among rising stars in Contested Possessions Per Game
                  Ranked 7th among rising stars in Uncontested Possessions Per Game
                  Ranked 6th among rising stars in Effective Disposals Per Game
                  Ranked 5th among rising stars in Contested Marks Per Game
                  Stats prove he should have been a top 10 draft pick. But that is to our benefit.
                  Officially on the Bus-wagon

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                  • Mantis
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 15444

                    Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

                    Originally posted by F'scary
                    Stats prove he should have been a top 10 draft pick. But that is to our benefit.
                    Not sure that's correct given many of the top picks from his draft year are ineligible for the RS award and as such wouldn't be included in this ranking group.

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                    • EasternWest
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 10002

                      Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

                      Originally posted by comrade
                      Love him, and love his ability to suck opponents into ripping his head off.

                      He's flying under the radar a little but his performances in the absence of Dickson and Crameri have been crucial.
                      Interesting.

                      Other players in the league get called horrendous cheats for doing just this.
                      "It's over. It's all over."

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                      • comrade
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 18026

                        Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

                        Originally posted by EasternWest
                        Interesting.

                        Other players in the league get called horrendous cheats for doing just this.
                        I don't care about other players. In any case, no one in the league is as good at drawing the contact and making it look so bad that the umpire has no choice but call it. His peripheral vision to time it perfectly is truly an art form and displays a huge footy IQ.

                        Others might not like it, so be it. But I'll be cheering when he gets a free in front of goal that helps us win a final.
                        Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 66687

                          Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

                          Originally posted by comrade
                          I don't care about other players. In any case, no one in the league is as good at drawing the contact and making it look so bad that the umpire has no choice but call it. His peripheral vision to time it perfectly is truly an art form and displays a huge footy IQ.

                          Others might not like it, so be it. But I'll be cheering when he gets a free in front of goal that helps us win a final.
                          Yep I agree. He does nothing wrong within the rules of the AFL. He avoids the tackle by lowering the body. Selwood has done this for years and I have heard no one in the media call him a cheat.
                          FFC: Established 1883

                          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                          • jeemak
                            Bulldog Legend
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 21814

                            Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

                            Originally posted by comrade
                            I don't care about other players. In any case, no one in the league is as good at drawing the contact and making it look so bad that the umpire has no choice but call it. His peripheral vision to time it perfectly is truly an art form and displays a huge footy IQ.

                            Others might not like it, so be it. But I'll be cheering when he gets a free in front of goal that helps us win a final.
                            What about if he hangs on to it in an attempt to draw a free kick, doesn't, and gets done holding the ball?

                            Opposition players will adjust. I don't like it but I'm OK with it as long as it's effective.
                            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                            • EasternWest
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 10002

                              Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              Yep I agree. He does nothing wrong within the rules of the AFL. He avoids the tackle by lowering the body. Selwood has done this for years and I have heard no one in the media call him a cheat.
                              It's not media I'm referring to.
                              "It's over. It's all over."

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                              • Bornadog
                                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 66687

                                Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

                                Originally posted by EasternWest
                                It's not media I'm referring to.
                                That's ok, who cares what supporters say.
                                FFC: Established 1883

                                Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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