Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 66687

    Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

    Originally posted by Ozza
    Mine too!! The excitement actually builds in me when I see him gather the ball down low at pace - the anticipation that someone will almost certainly get him high and we will shoot for goal!!

    Around the neck is around the neck - no matter what happens really (unless you drive yourself into the opposition, which he doesn't) so the article will have no bearing on him continuing to get his one or two a game.

    I like how Bevo stood up for him and Bailey Dale during the week. Without naming them specifically, he mentioned how we have got young players in their 1st or 2nd years putting their heads over the footy and getting free kicks for high contact. And 'if you deserve a free, you get one'.
    Now the AFL want to review the rule. Another knee jerk reaction. They are a bloody disgrace.
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    • Murphy'sLore
      WOOF Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 2085

      Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

      I love how Bevo will come out and defend our club and players with such passion. He's not sooky or unreasonable, but you know he means it and he stands up.

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66687

        Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

        Originally posted by Murphy'sLore
        I love how Bevo will come out and defend our club and players with such passion. He's not sooky or unreasonable, but you know he means it and he stands up.
        Gutless wonder Barret having another go at him today on AFL website (see here)
        FFC: Established 1883

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        • Happy Days
          Hall of Fame
          • May 2008
          • 10139

          Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

          Originally posted by bornadog
          Now the AFL want to review the rule. Another knee jerk reaction. They are a bloody disgrace.
          I've never seen a body as terrified of organisational inertia as the AFL.
          - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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          • Ghost Dog
            WOOF Member
            • May 2010
            • 9404

            Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

            Originally posted by Happy Days
            I've never seen a body as terrified of organisational inertia as the AFL.
            Fans should demand a cap on rule changes over a period of 5 seasons. Make the accountable.
            You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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            • Bulldog Joe
              Premiership Moderator
              • Jul 2009
              • 5564

              Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

              Originally posted by bornadog
              Gutless wonder Barret having another go at him today on AFL website (see here)
              He is certainly making his vendetta personal.
              Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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              • hujsh
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2007
                • 11839

                Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

                Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                Fans should demand a cap on rule changes over a period of 5 seasons. Make the accountable.
                A rule change on the rule changes? Brilliant!
                [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                • Twodogs
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 27654

                  Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

                  Originally posted by hujsh
                  A rule change on the rule changes? Brilliant!

                  A rule change to the rule change regarding rule changing.
                  They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                  • Daughter of the West
                    WOOF Member
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 918

                    Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    Gutless wonder Barret having another go at him today on AFL website (see here)
                    Bahrrytt (and I know you're reading this), put it away. No seriously, put it away. Put the grinding axe away. You look like a tool. A big dumb tool.
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                    • Twodogs
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 27654

                      Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      Gutless wonder Barret having another go at him today on AFL website (see here)

                      Meh! Shit splatters.
                      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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                      • stefoid
                        Senior Player
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 1846

                        Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

                        Ive always hated the interpretation of the 'protection of the head' rule that actually encourages players to put their heads in danger.

                        I hope the AFL instructs the umpires to stop doing it, and then the practice will disappear.

                        Playing for a head high free is no different to taking a dive, IMO.

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                        • comrade
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 18026

                          Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

                          Originally posted by stefoid
                          Ive always hated the interpretation of the 'protection of the head' rule that actually encourages players to put their heads in danger.

                          I hope the AFL instructs the umpires to stop doing it, and then the practice will disappear.

                          Playing for a head high free is no different to taking a dive, IMO.
                          So what should Toby do when the tackle is around his arms? Just drop the ball? He has the right to try and evade the tackler. If the technique of the tackler isn't perfect allowing for the tackle to creep up, that's on the tackler.
                          Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                          • stefoid
                            Senior Player
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 1846

                            Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

                            Originally posted by comrade
                            So what should Toby do when the tackle is around his arms? Just drop the ball? He has the right to try and evade the tackler. If the technique of the tackler isn't perfect allowing for the tackle to creep up, that's on the tackler.
                            Lets not pretend that he and a few others in the league dont play for head high free kicks. Personally I dont like any player playing for any kind of free kicks.

                            But OK, I dont particularly care if he tries to 'evade' a tackle by going low - its the free kick I object to. If the umps stopped paying those free kicks, the practice would disappear overnight, because without the possibility of drawing a free, its not an effective way to dispose of the ball.

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66687

                              Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

                              Originally posted by stefoid
                              Lets not pretend that he and a few others in the league dont play for head high free kicks. Personally I dont like any player playing for any kind of free kicks.

                              But OK, I dont particularly care if he tries to 'evade' a tackle by going low - its the free kick I object to. If the umps stopped paying those free kicks, the practice would disappear overnight, because without the possibility of drawing a free, its not an effective way to dispose of the ball.
                              How about the tackler, tackles properly and not around or close to the shoulders.
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                              • Bulldog Joe
                                Premiership Moderator
                                • Jul 2009
                                • 5564

                                Re: Welcome to the WBFC - Toby McLean

                                Originally posted by stefoid
                                Lets not pretend that he and a few others in the league dont play for head high free kicks. Personally I dont like any player playing for any kind of free kicks.

                                But OK, I dont particularly care if he tries to 'evade' a tackle by going low - its the free kick I object to. If the umps stopped paying those free kicks, the practice would disappear overnight, because without the possibility of drawing a free, its not an effective way to dispose of the ball.
                                Sorry Stefoid.
                                Just can't agree with your point.

                                They have stopped the leading with the head frees, that were a feature of the play of Daniel Cross.

                                What McLean has done is develop a technique that makes it very difficult for a tackler to get him legally (that is NOT HIGH) and prevent him disposing of the ball. He will stop getting the frees when someone finds a technique to pin him legally.
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