Dog 'in dark place'

[Twodogs]

Re: Dog 'in dark place'

All well and good, but we all know how others can influence our lives, like dickhead mates and often we don't realise it. You can call him an adult, but as someone else mentioned, adults make lots of mistakes.

The first thing that can help Libba is that he has to admit he has a problem, then he needs to get help.

It's the first step. Then you lose the dickhead mates. Then you focus on making good choices.

I fear he doesnt properly understand that he has a problem yet though.

[Bornadog]

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It's the first step. Then you lose the dickhead mates. Then you focus on making good choices.

I fear he doesnt properly understand that he has a problem yet though.

yes I feel the same.

It is hard to change mates, but in his environment ie with lots of young team mates, he should be able to.

[Maddog37]

Re: Dog 'in dark place'

Not to lessen the value of your opinions guys but I feel there is quite a few conclusions being jumped to here.

[jeemak]

Re: Dog 'in dark place'

I don't know the severity of his problems, others seem to.

[Twodogs]

Re: Dog 'in dark place'

Not to lessen the value of your opinions guys but I feel there is quite a few conclusions being jumped to here.

I don't know the severity of his problems, others seem to.

Both fair points but he was arrested and put on a diversion program. However I am extrapolating a bit from that.

[AndrewP6]

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Not to lessen the value of your opinions guys but I feel there is quite a few conclusions being jumped to here.

Absolutely, some seem to gather quite a lot from a few known facts.

[Bornadog]

Re: Dog 'in dark place'

Absolutely, some seem to gather quite a lot from a few known facts.

Fact, sleeping in the gutter, pissed with pills in your pocket, tells you a bit.

[jeemak]

Re: Dog 'in dark place'

Fact, sleeping in the gutter, pissed with pills in your pocket, tells you a bit.

BAD, what exactly does it tell you? I'm interested, as I'm assuming you either have comprehensions skills far greater than mine or access to information I don't.

[AndrewP6]

Re: Dog 'in dark place'

Fact, sleeping in the gutter, pissed with pills in your pocket, tells you a bit.

Only 'tells you a bit' if you put 2 and 2 together and get 5. Doesn't necessarily mean he has a deep 'problem'. Plenty of 20 y/o get so drunk they pass out, and unfortunately, 'recreational drugs' are not uncommon in nightclubs.

[Sedat]

Re: Dog 'in dark place'

Fact, sleeping in the gutter, pissed with pills in your pocket, tells you a bit.

Aside from the 'pills' bit, that is about as common an occurance as you can see in the wee small hours in the city and has been for the last 40 years - and in day's prior to that it would be the same image seen at 6.05pm out the front of most pubs following the 6 o'clock swill. And from what I know about the under 30 set, the 'pills' bit is only slightly less common too.

None of this detracts from the fact that Libba is a DH for getting himself into such a situation, considering the priveliged access he gets to education and welfare programs as an elite AFL player, but to make assertions that there are deep problems beneath the surface would be presumptious at this stage - having said that, this has the capacity to become the thin edge of the wedge if said behaviour is left unchecked, whereby it could easily lead to something altogether more dangerous and sustained. The ball is very much in Libba's court how this plays out moving forward.

[chef]

Re: Dog 'in dark place'

Fact, sleeping in the gutter, pissed with pills in your pocket, tells you a bit.

Tells you he's your average young adult male. They make mistakes.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Dog 'in dark place'

Not to lessen the value of your opinions guys but I feel there is quite a few conclusions being jumped to here.

You're right. Perhaps we're all being a bit hasty.

[Desipura]

Re: Dog 'in dark place'

Were there drugs in his system? Was he drug tested?
If not, could someone have planted them in his pocket whilst unconcious?
So many questions, so few answers.

[Ghost Dog]

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You would think the club would be saying to players, " Look, if you do drugs, eventually you are going to be caught. It's just a question of when."

[Bornadog]

Re: Dog 'in dark place'

You would think the club would be saying to players, " Look, if you do drugs, eventually you are going to be caught. It's just a question of when."

I would say that message is given to them year after year. The AFL is pretty vigilant about educating players on drugs.