Doug Hawkins slams Western Bulldogs' isolation of Tom Liberatore

[Mitcha]

Re: Doug Hawkins slams Western Bulldogs' isolation of Tom Liberatore

Love the Hawk but getting a bit jacked off that whenever there is an issue at the club, the media run to him as the club spokesman, stuck in the 80s and not the sharpest tool in the shed is our Douggie.

[Hotdog60]

Re: Doug Hawkins slams Western Bulldogs' isolation of Tom Liberatore

Didn't Dougie have a fondness for the turps in his days, granted different time, different professionalism.

Times have changed and the players need to realise that they are under a lot of scrutiny and need to behave in a high standard or they will be crucified.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Doug Hawkins slams Western Bulldogs' isolation of Tom Liberatore

How can you say this is a failure of the club? These guys don't have full time minders. None of us know how it all went down. It's not inconceivable that he might have been a bit pissed, decided he needed air and took himself outside unbeknown to the people he was out with. I'm filthy that Doug Hawkins has decided to go public and lash the club at a time when he and everyone else knows that the club really doesn't need it. Potting Murph is low too. What Doug needs to realise is that Tom didn't just have a few too many beers, he was caught with drugs. This would get you in a fair bit of trouble with the law in most states in this country and it will get you killed in some other countries. These are not just mates kicking the ball around together on the weekend, these guys are professionals, it's their well paid occupation. To say he's been abandoned is a bit steep as I'm sure he's being given abundant support from the club.

It a failure of the club because you go out in town, you look after your teammates.
Heard that line from other clubs as well.
I never said he isn't responsible but a bit of protection from those close would have diffused the situation.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Doug Hawkins slams Western Bulldogs' isolation of Tom Liberatore

How many flags did Doug win with his stick by your mates theory?
.

Won plenty at other clubs. Ask west coast for one

[EasternWest]

Re: Doug Hawkins slams Western Bulldogs' isolation of Tom Liberatore

It a failure of the club because you go out in town, you look after your teammates.
Heard that line from other clubs as well.
I never said he isn't responsible but a bit of protection from those close would have diffused the situation.

Not sure about this. I'd imagine we've all been out with that pissed mate that refuses to listen to you and eventually you've had enough.

If Libba is the party boy he's been made out to be, maybe he gets bellicose/belligerent and uncooperative (I'm speculating).

I don't blame the teammates that were no longer with him.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not hanging Libba over it either, but he's done the wrong thing and I hope he learns from it.

Won plenty at other clubs. Ask west coast for one

Lolwut?

[jeemak]

Re: Doug Hawkins slams Western Bulldogs' isolation of Tom Liberatore

It a failure of the club because you go out in town, you look after your teammates.
Heard that line from other clubs as well.
I never said he isn't responsible but a bit of protection from those close would have diffused the situation.

Yeah, because smashed folk in their 20's are so reasonable. Some stern words form his team mates would have set him straight.

[AndrewP6]

Re: Doug Hawkins slams Western Bulldogs' isolation of Tom Liberatore

Does he have any known offences against his name already?

Don't believe so.

[AndrewP6]

Re: Doug Hawkins slams Western Bulldogs' isolation of Tom Liberatore

Has he been banned from Whitten Oval?

Yep.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Doug Hawkins slams Western Bulldogs' isolation of Tom Liberatore

Yeah, because smashed folk in their 20's are so reasonable. Some stern words form his team mates would have set him straight.

So just let him fend for himself then. Self-preservation mode.
It not like this stuff carries on to ground does it?
Nor is it in their interest(alongside a good player).

I said/meant it might have disfused the situation.

[Maddog37]

Re: Doug Hawkins slams Western Bulldogs' isolation of Tom Liberatore

So just let him fend for himself then. Self-preservation mode.
It not like this stuff carries on to ground does it?
Nor is it in their interest(alongside a good player).

I said/meant it might have disfused the situation.

I think you have completely missed the point of the article.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Doug Hawkins slams Western Bulldogs' isolation of Tom Liberatore

I think you have completely missed the point of the article.

and you have completely missed my point.
I have already acknowledge I may have read Hawkins message differently.

[Remi Moses]

Re: Doug Hawkins slams Western Bulldogs' isolation of Tom Liberatore

I think you two are miss reading what Hawk is trying to say. Should never been left alone by his teammates.

Surprise you haven't blamed the coach?
Does he have to be babysat?

[Maddog37]

Re: Doug Hawkins slams Western Bulldogs' isolation of Tom Liberatore

Chops,

So are you still saying Hawkins was referring to the night itself?

And yes I do not understand your point.....can you expand on what it is?

[GVGjr]

Re: Doug Hawkins slams Western Bulldogs' isolation of Tom Liberatore

Fair enough. Just think his teammates should not only been there til the end and questioned what he was doing prior.
This a failure of the club not just the player.

So one in all in? When one person is being silly and out past a reasonable time to be getting home everyone else should stay with him?
Isn't that the job of his parents and family not his mates or his employer?
The best thing to happen to him is being caught. Now he can get professional help not just mates covering for him.

[LostDoggy]

Re: Doug Hawkins slams Western Bulldogs' isolation of Tom Liberatore

Surprise you haven't blamed the coach?
Does he have to be babysat?

More surprised it took you so long to repeat youre bagging of me.
God forgive I say something slightly negative.
We must all be positive cos we are going so well.