Doug Hawkins slams Western Bulldogs' isolation of Tom Liberatore

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  • LostDoggy
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8307

    #31
    Re: Doug Hawkins slams Western Bulldogs' isolation of Tom Liberatore

    Originally posted by GVGjr
    So one in all in? When one person is being silly and out past a reasonable time to be getting home everyone else should stay with him?
    Isn't that the job of his parents and family not his mates or his employer?
    The best thing to happen to him is being caught. Now he can get professional help not just mates covering for him.
    Where did i say covering for him?

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    • LostDoggy
      WOOF Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 8307

      #32
      Re: Doug Hawkins slams Western Bulldogs' isolation of Tom Liberatore

      Originally posted by Maddog37
      Chops,

      So are you still saying Hawkins was referring to the night itself?

      And yes I do not understand your point.....can you expand on what it is?
      Maybe you should read it again then

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      • Maddog37
        WOOF Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 3132

        #33
        Re: Doug Hawkins slams Western Bulldogs' isolation of Tom Liberatore

        Originally posted by Chops
        Maybe you should read it again then

        My questions were genuine but if you do not have the time to answer then fair enough.

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        • LostDoggy
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 8307

          #34
          Re: Doug Hawkins slams Western Bulldogs' isolation of Tom Liberatore

          Originally posted by Maddog37
          My questions were genuine but if you do not have the time to answer then fair enough.
          I do not have time to explain 3 times to you. Fair enough.

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          • Maddog37
            WOOF Member
            • Nov 2010
            • 3132

            #35
            Re: Doug Hawkins slams Western Bulldogs' isolation of Tom Liberatore

            Ok I will take that as you are just being antagonistic for the sake of it and that you misinterpreted the article from the start.

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 43929

              #36
              Re: Doug Hawkins slams Western Bulldogs' isolation of Tom Liberatore

              Originally posted by Chops
              Where did i say covering for him?
              Never said that you did but you are wanting his team mates to stay out as long as Tom wanted/needed them. I think it shows a better test of character for young people to exercise their own judgement about what is acceptable behavior.
              I get that you are pointing the finger at the club (and the player) but I just don't agree with it.

              Doug wants him to continue to train at the club, well I think the most professional advice available is indicating that it wouldn't be the right thing for Tom.
              Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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              • LostDoggy
                WOOF Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 8307

                #37
                Re: Doug Hawkins slams Western Bulldogs' isolation of Tom Liberatore

                Dont usually agree with Dougs comments but I do on this one. The bloke has stufed up and been suspended ...... but to be isolated from the club and players is not going to help one bit. A young fellow in this position needs some support and encouragement ... not banishment.

                Furthermore, are the leadership group actually have any professional experience in welfare or phsycology?

                I reckon a few of them would serve the club better if they went and practiced their kicking skills instead of dishing out ridiculous punishments.

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 65634

                  #38
                  Re: Doug Hawkins slams Western Bulldogs' isolation of Tom Liberatore

                  I think the club is in the best position to work out what is the right punishment, We are not talking about amateur hour here, the club would have sought professional assistance before they made a decision.
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                  • LostDoggy
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 8307

                    #39
                    Re: Doug Hawkins slams Western Bulldogs' isolation of Tom Liberatore

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    I think the club is in the best position to work out what is the right punishment, We are not talking about amateur hour here, the club would have sought professional assistance before they made a decision.
                    From what I understand though, the leadership group decided upon the punishment.

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                    • Remi Moses
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 14785

                      #40
                      Re: Doug Hawkins slams Western Bulldogs' isolation of Tom Liberatore

                      Originally posted by Chops
                      More surprised it took you so long to repeat youre bagging of me.
                      God forgive I say something slightly negative.
                      We must all be positive cos we are going so well.
                      So what's your answer?
                      Ignore it?
                      The problem is your always F****** negative!
                      Do you want the coach replaced?

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                      • Mantis
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 15216

                        #41
                        Re: Doug Hawkins slams Western Bulldogs' isolation of Tom Liberatore

                        Originally posted by bornadog
                        I think the club is in the best position to work out what is the right punishment, We are not talking about amateur hour here, the club would have sought professional assistance before they made a decision.
                        Are you living in dreamland?

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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          #42
                          Re: Doug Hawkins slams Western Bulldogs' isolation of Tom Liberatore

                          Originally posted by Remi Moses
                          So what's your answer?
                          Ignore it?
                          The problem is your always F****** negative!
                          Do you want the coach replaced?
                          The problem is you have are mistaken the teams performances with my views.
                          The results speak for themselves.

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 65634

                            #43
                            Re: Doug Hawkins slams Western Bulldogs' isolation of Tom Liberatore

                            Originally posted by Mantis
                            Are you living in dreamland?
                            Does the club have access to a Psychologist?
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                            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                            • KT31
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 5454

                              #44
                              Re: Doug Hawkins slams Western Bulldogs' isolation of Tom Liberatore

                              Originally posted by jeemak
                              Yeah, because smashed folk in their 20's are so reasonable. Some stern words form his team mates would have set him straight.
                              Maybe even a spot in a boxing ring would be a lesson well taught.
                              It's better to die on our feet than live on our knees.

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                              • Remi Moses
                                WOOF Member
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 14785

                                #45
                                Re: Doug Hawkins slams Western Bulldogs' isolation of Tom Liberatore

                                Originally posted by Chops
                                The problem is you have are mistaken the teams performances with my views.
                                The results speak for themselves.
                                Great political answer chops! WTF does it mean?
                                So if chops was CEO we'd have a new coach?
                                Personally think it's to early to make a call on the coach, like more time.

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