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  • Webby
    WOOF Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 1880

    #31
    Re: Western Bulldogs' dilemma more than the coach

    Originally posted by Scorlibo
    On the subject of Melbourne, does anyone find it curious how Paul Roos is receiving enormous amounts of praise - even to the point of being considered the coach of the year - for taking Melbourne to the same number of wins as we've had? Similar lists, arguably we've performed better than they have, but Macca cops a roasting and Roos a toasting. Bizarre.
    Melbourne were the lowest scoring team in the league last year and they're the lowest scoring team again this year - in fact, their scoring is slightly down on last year's.

    The only difference is that their defence has improved. Roos basically has them juggling one ball at the moment. When they try to move to juggling two, and then three balls, they'll find (as we are) that progress is less meteoric!

    They, like us, have a long road to travel.

    The big difference is that they are feeling better about themselves than we are.

    PS. Gary Lyon is just a very ordinary character on more levels than I'd care to mention on an open forum..

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    • Sedat
      Hall of Fame
      • Sep 2007
      • 11144

      #32
      Re: Western Bulldogs' dilemma more than the coach

      Originally posted by Webby
      The only difference is that their defence has improved. Roos basically has them juggling one ball at the moment. When they try to move to juggling two, and then three balls, they'll find (as we are) that progress is less meteoric!

      They, like us, have a long road to travel.
      Yes it has, to the tune of 40 points a game. That is the biggest rate of improvement in one season in VFL/AFL history, and it includes the smashing they received at the hands of West Coke.

      They have a long road to hoe but with their KP stocks at both ends undeniably better and deeper than ours, they look better placed to make the climb in the ladder a little quicker than us.
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      • Remi Moses
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 14785

        #33
        Re: Western Bulldogs' dilemma more than the coach

        Originally posted by Sedat
        Yes it has, to the tune of 40 points a game. That is the biggest rate of improvement in one season in VFL/AFL history, and it includes the smashing they received at the hands of West Coke.

        They have a long road to hoe but with their KP stocks at both ends undeniably better and deeper than ours, they look better placed to make the climb in the ladder a little quicker than us.
        As they should be considering they've been putrid for 7 years.
        They've had awful coaches and development over the journey , and is something they've addressed bringing George Stone and the like from Sydney.

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        • Remi Moses
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 14785

          #34
          Re: Western Bulldogs' dilemma more than the coach

          Originally posted by Webby
          Melbourne were the lowest scoring team in the league last year and they're the lowest scoring team again this year - in fact, their scoring is slightly down on last year's.

          The only difference is that their defence has improved. Roos basically has them juggling one ball at the moment. When they try to move to juggling two, and then three balls, they'll find (as we are) that progress is less meteoric!

          They, like us, have a long road to travel.

          The big difference is that they are feeling better about themselves than we are.

          PS. Gary Lyon is just a very ordinary character on more levels than I'd care to mention on an open forum..
          What about his wonderful leadership.interesting I was at an establishment after the Grand Prix in the late 90's, and Garry was drinking with a young recently recruited number 1 draft pick. That player was hammered and there was his captain laughing and joking with him. Terrible leadership

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          • Webby
            WOOF Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 1880

            #35
            Re: Western Bulldogs' dilemma more than the coach

            Originally posted by Remi Moses
            What about his wonderful leadership.interesting I was at an establishment after the Grand Prix in the late 90's, and Garry was drinking with a young recently recruited number 1 draft pick. That player was hammered and there was his captain laughing and joking with him. Terrible leadership
            Alcohol was/is not Garry's biggest 'Demon'.. And he's not the only 'inspirational' Dees captain between that era and now who enjoyed the night life a little too much....

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            • LostDoggy
              WOOF Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 8307

              #36
              Re: Western Bulldogs' dilemma more than the coach

              I personally couldn't give a rats arse how Melbourne is doing, or how it's at all relevant to the Bulldogs?

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              • westdog54
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 6686

                #37
                Re: Western Bulldogs' dilemma more than the coach

                Originally posted by BornAScragger
                I personally couldn't give a rats arse how Melbourne is doing, or how it's at all relevant to the Bulldogs?
                Because Macca is being roasted in the media at the moment but Roos has been left untouched.

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66175

                  #38
                  Re: Western Bulldogs' dilemma more than the coach

                  Originally posted by westdog54
                  Because Macca is being roasted in the media at the moment but Roos has been left untouched.
                  No not untouched but lauded how he has improved Melbourne.
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                  • Scorlibo
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 3075

                    #39
                    Re: Western Bulldogs' dilemma more than the coach

                    Originally posted by westdog54
                    Because Macca is being roasted in the media at the moment but Roos has been left untouched.
                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    No not untouched but lauded how he has improved Melbourne.
                    Yep. I totally understand also what Sedat has said about expectations coming into the season, but I feel even so that there can't be such a huge discrepancy in their treatment (best regarded coach in the league versus 17th best) given that the two teams are really at a similar stage of development.
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