Footscary Bulldogs v Geelong - Round 14 2015

[G-Mo77]

Re: Footscary Bulldogs v Geelong - Round 14 2015

I've been a Pearce fan for a while now but if we are going to upgrade anyone then it should be Rourke Smith on form but if we want a harder body on the list then it's Pearce.

Serious question. If we upgraded Pearce nd he got injured straight away then can we still promote Smith? Or do we only get one chance?

Yep, pretty sure we can elevate anyone after round 11 or 12.

[GVGjr]

Re: Footscary Bulldogs v Geelong - Round 14 2015

I've been a Pearce fan for a while now but if we are going to upgrade anyone then it should be Rourke Smith on form but if we want a harder body on the list then it's Pearce.

Serious question. If we upgraded Pearce nd he got injured straight away then can we still promote Smith? Or do we only get one chance?

All for keeping him at the club but Roarke Smith really isn't a good decision maker yet and doesn't have good skills on his opposite side.
I think the decision has already been made with him whereas if Pearce earns himself a promotion and performs well it could very well get him back on the senior list.

Regarding the rookie promotions, remember it's to cover long term injuries of 6 weeks or greater.
We have Smith and Liberatore on the LTI and now McLean could qualify if needed.

After Round 13, one rookie may be promoted to the senior list if needed and a club can commit their last national draft pick for next season for that player.

[Go_Dogs]

Re: Footscary Bulldogs v Geelong - Round 14 2015

Thanks for the reports all. I'd really like to see Jong come in.

Pearce has spent a bit of time around the ball in the few VFL matches I've seen this year. GVGjr, what is the reason you aren't sure he could rotate through at senior level?

Kelly is the other one I'm interested in hearing about. Thought he showed he could be a big body around the ball in a defender-midfielder role. How did he go?

[GVGjr]

Re: Footscary Bulldogs v Geelong - Round 14 2015

Thanks for the reports all. I'd really like to see Jong come in.

Pearce has spent a bit of time around the ball in the few VFL matches I've seen this year. GVGjr, what is the reason you aren't sure he could rotate through at senior level?

Kelly is the other one I'm interested in hearing about. Thought he showed he could be a big body around the ball in a defender-midfielder role. How did he go?

I haven't been that impressed with his work in the middle but if you play in the seniors as a forward you will have to do more than stay in the 50mtr arc. When you compare some of the other players like Webb, Dale, Daniel and McLean they just look more at home at having a run in the middle.

Kelly has had a lot of injuries, I didn't really rate his game today but it's hard to judge him.

[boydogs]

Re: Footscary Bulldogs v Geelong - Round 14 2015

Pearce is looking much stronger these days

[Bornadog]

Re: Footscary Bulldogs v Geelong - Round 14 2015

Bit surprised by that, you have tended to ignore form at Footscray.
Thought Jong's kicking has been pretty good. Like the way he spotted up a player late in the 4th and pin pointed the pass.

With our injury list mounting we might have to be a bit more flexible than normal.

Not true I do value form at VFL level as there is not much else to go on if you aren't in the seniors. I just like to see a player show more than just a good effort here and there.

[westdog54]

Re: Footscary Bulldogs v Geelong - Round 14 2015

I've been a Pearce fan for a while now but if we are going to upgrade anyone then it should be Rourke Smith on form but if we want a harder body on the list then it's Pearce.

Serious question. If we upgraded Pearce nd he got injured straight away then can we still promote Smith? Or do we only get one chance?

My understanding would be that as long as someone remains on the LTI List we can swap rookies between the main list and rookie list, i.e., we could elevate Pearce, return him to the RL and then promote Smith.

I stand to be corrected on that though.

[GVGjr]

Re: Footscary Bulldogs v Geelong - Round 14 2015

Not true I do value form at VFL level as there is not much else to go on if you aren't in the seniors. I just like to see a player show more than just a good effort here and there.

I'm not so sure about that, whenever I have mentioned the form of players to justify a potential promotion you have often countered with how big the gap is between the VFL and the AFL. You've gone to that same observation again in this thread to justify why in your opinion Jong shouldn't be promoted.

When Campbell was struggling with form a few weeks back in the VFL you didn't really see it as a problem to replace Minson. You wanted VFL form ignored with Goodes was knocking on the door as well. Maybe it's more of an age thing with those two.

My view is that if you bring players in with some good VFL form behind them they are more likely to succeed. Sometimes selections have to ignore form but that's typically due to injuries or team balance.

[Twodogs]

Re: Footscary Bulldogs v Geelong - Round 14 2015

Pearce has been pretty big for a couple of years, he just hasn't been on the park.

[Bornadog]

Re: Footscary Bulldogs v Geelong - Round 14 2015

I'm not so sure about that, whenever I have mentioned the form of players to justify a potential promotion you have often countered with how big the gap is between the VFL and the AFL. You've gone to that same observation again in this thread to justify why in your opinion Jong shouldn't be promoted.

When Campbell was struggling with form a few weeks back in the VFL you didn't really see it as a problem to replace Minson. You wanted VFL form ignored with Goodes was knocking on the door as well. Maybe it's more of an age thing with those two.

My view is that if you bring players in with some good VFL form behind them they are more likely to succeed. Sometimes selections have to ignore form but that's typically due to injuries or team balance.

I think Jong needs another week in the VFL, but perhaps the coach will look at needs rather than pure form.


As for Goodes I have made my opinion known, but also I don't think he is good enough for AFL, putting his age aside.

I don't believe when I called for Campbell to be given a go that he was struggling.

Just my opinions nothing more nothing less.

[Twodogs]

Re: Footscary Bulldogs v Geelong - Round 14 2015

I think Jong needs another week in the VFL, but perhaps the coach will look at needs rather than pure form.


As for Goodes I have made my opinion known, but also I don't think he is good enough for AFL, putting his age aside.

I don't believe when I called for Campbell to be given a go that he was struggling.

Just my opinions nothing more nothing less.

I had the same opinion on Goodes but he was playing well at AFL level and providing us with an option we don't have much of when he was injured. I think we have missed him since he has been out. He's improved his football since last year.

[Hot_Doggies]

Re: Footscary Bulldogs v Geelong - Round 14 2015

You can put a line through both Pearce and Biggs.

Biggs isn't quick enough or strong enough. Plus his kicking is neat but not great.

Pearce doesn't have AFL attributes unfortunately.

[1eyedog]

Re: Footscary Bulldogs v Geelong - Round 14 2015

I had the same opinion on Goodes but he was playing well at AFL level and providing us with an option we don't have much of when he was injured. I think we have missed him since he has been out. He's improved his football since last year.

Goodes is only good when we are playing well. He goes missing when it gets hard. IMO.

[Bulldog Joe]

Re: Footscary Bulldogs v Geelong - Round 14 2015

match stats

http://imgur.com/JCdojGh

[Bornadog]

Re: Footscary Bulldogs v Geelong - Round 14 2015

match stats
http://imgur.com/JCdojGh

Thank you BJ.

I still think at this level, Jong has to get more of the ball before he should be considered for an upgrade. 20 disposals should have been 30 disposals. I know it's not quantity and should be quality, but as an inside midfielder you need to get more than that.