2016 Draft and Trade Strategy

[GVGjr]

Re: 2016 Draft and Trade Strategy

Im still not a fan of trading our first round pick unless its for a genuine star player or someone that fill a weakness for us. We have missed a couple of first round picks of late and despite our window, we cant keep missing them.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: 2016 Draft and Trade Strategy

Im still not a fan of trading our first round pick unless its for a genuine star player or someone that fill a weakness for us. We have missed a couple of first round picks of late and despite our window, we cant keep missing them.

Say we end up with pick 19 if we finish as premiers (16 if we lose this week). We had 20 & 21 last year. Is there that much difference? We are not giving up a top end pick unless we trade into an upgrade.

[comrade]

Re: 2016 Draft and Trade Strategy

Im still not a fan of trading our first round pick unless its for a geniune star player or someone that fill a weakness for us. We have missed a coupld of first round picks of late and despite our window, we cant keep missing them.

I would prefer to trade out our first pick to secure multiple picks in the 20s.

Picks in the teens are overrated, IMO.

[soupman]

Re: 2016 Draft and Trade Strategy

I can't see adding another kid helps make us better now the window is open.

Not sure about that. Nearly every player we have drafted recently has had an impact in their first season, with Dunkley and Daniel both playing important roles in finals sides in their first season (Adams would've too), and Williams, Dale and Mclean were all in the mix too.

Having said that the earliest pick of that lot was 20 odd so there could be merit in mkving the first round pick for a downgrade.

[Bornadog]

Re: 2016 Draft and Trade Strategy

Im still not a fan of trading our first round pick unless its for a genuine star player or someone that fill a weakness for us. We have missed a couple of first round picks of late and despite our window, we cant keep missing them.

I agree, we need to use the first round pick wisely.

[GVGjr]

Re: 2016 Draft and Trade Strategy

Say we end up with pick 19 if we finish as premiers (16 if we lose this week). We had 20 & 21 last year. Is there that much difference? We are not giving up a top end pick unless we trade into an upgrade.

The players you are potentially suggesting like Vardy and/or Motlop (as examples) to me aren't worth letting go of a first round pick as they don't really fill a genuine need. With Cloke likely to come in where does that leave a Vardy acquisition? I'd suggest at the back of the queue behind Roughead and Campbell. I don't mind him but he would only be a back up. Crameri, Boyd, Dickson, Cloke, McLean and a few mids interchanging fills up or forward line so it's hard to see how Vardy adds anything more than depth. Perhaps a late 2nd round pick gets that deal done. Motlop is talented but also inconsistent and we can likely cover him with players we already have.

As I said, I'll certainly consider letting go of a first round pick but ideally it needs to fill a position for us.

[GVGjr]

Re: 2016 Draft and Trade Strategy

I would prefer to trade out our first pick to secure multiple picks in the 20s.

Picks in the teens are overrated, IMO.

The way we select players you might be right but our recruiting team is doing so well with the picks provided so I'm optimistic and would hope moving them up the order by 10 spots might net us a genuine star.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: 2016 Draft and Trade Strategy

The players you are potentially suggesting like Vardy and/or Motlop (as examples) to me aren't worth letting go of a first round pick as they don't really fill a genuine need. With Cloke likely to come in where does that leave a Vardy acquisition? I'd suggest at the back of the queue behind Roughead and Campbell. I don't mind him but he would only be a back up. Crameri, Boyd, Dickson, Cloke, McLean and a few mids interchanging fills up or forward line so it's hard to see how Vardy adds anything more than depth. Perhaps a late 2nd round pick gets that deal done. Motlop is talented but also inconsistent and we can likely cover him with players we already have.

As I said, I'll certainly consider letting go of a first round pick but ideally it needs to fill a position for us.

The names were more of an example. Pick 16-19 or a mature very good player who we want/have a need for, I'm inclined to go with the trade. Alternatively, if someone like Stevens moved us up the first round significantly then I'm happy to back that strategy in too.

[jeemak]

Re: 2016 Draft and Trade Strategy

A Jong or Stevens plus our first rounder for a higher first rounder and a second/third might interest me.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: 2016 Draft and Trade Strategy

A Jong or Stevens plus our first rounder for a higher first rounder and a second/third might interest me.

Yep. I think 16-19 is no mans land. We can't trade it for two early 20's picks. It's good trade currency or packaged up as you say, might top us up with an elite talent in the draft and look towards free agency this year and next for mature decent players.

[SquirrelGrip]

Re: 2016 Draft and Trade Strategy

TCrameri, Boyd, Dickson, Cloke, McLean and a few mids interchanging fills up or forward line so it's hard to see how Vardy adds anything more than depth.

I reckon the Package might get the odd run up forward too!

[bulldogtragic]

Re: 2016 Draft and Trade Strategy

I love the look of Long in the VFL. I wonder where he goes? I can see Essendon chasing him for a player and a headline.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: 2016 Draft and Trade Strategy

Do we need an extra ruck if Minson is gone? As part of our overall strategy?

Witts got schooled by Minson & Campbell, so no. Zak Clarke is average. Goldstein is apparently gettable, but I wouldn't pay that price. Vardy is injury prone. Nankervis from Sydney??

[jeemak]

Re: 2016 Draft and Trade Strategy

I'm almost OK with keeping Minson for another year as back up and seeing who we might be able to grab at the end of next year.

We really need someone who can defend against the like of Betts, Rioli, Puopolo (last night's effort from him aside), though I'm not sure who's available.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: 2016 Draft and Trade Strategy

I'm almost OK with keeping Minson for another year as back up and seeing who we might be able to grab at the end of next year.

We really need someone who can defend against the like of Betts, Rioli, Puopolo (last night's effort from him aside), though I'm not sure who's available.

Then who are the four delistings/trades is the next question? (1) Prudden. (2) Stevens. (3 & 4) Two of Honeychurch/Jong/Hamling/Hrovat if they request trades?