Bugger it, don't trade Pick 1

[Bornadog]

Watching a few replays today, the odd quarter here and there and I thought you know what, we have done very well with pick one over the past few years:

2018 - Bailey Smith
2017 - Aaron Naughton
2016 - Tim English
2015 - Josh Dunkley (round 2)
2014 - Toby Mclean (round 2 )
2013 - The Bont
2012 - Stringer (oh well), but we had the next pick - Jack Macrae

I am against trading pick 1 unless we picked up a Nat Fyfe type.

Lets keep pick 1.

[angelopetraglia]

Re: Bugger it, don't trade Pick 1

Agree 100%. Back our recruiting team in. The draft has served us well.

[comrade]

Re: Bugger it, don't trade Pick 1

It’s because we’ve nailed so many early picks that we’re now in a perfext position to top up, especially when we’ve got some NGA gems tied to us next year.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Bugger it, don't trade Pick 1

Endless amounts of kids creates a problem after a long while. At some point being the youngest or inexperienced team to play that round isn't worthwhile. I've heard you say draft for best available and trade for need. We have current needs that trading our first rounder could address, short of being a Brownlow medalist. Our recruiters are great at their jobs, no debate. But we also traded in Tom Boyd giving up a first rounder with Gryphone. All of three games experience.

Also like financial tv ads say at the end, 'past performance is not an accurate predictor of future performance'. We did recruit Jarrad Grant over Damgerfield. And grabbed Farren Ray & Tom Williams in the top 6 picks too. And the depth at the top end changes too.

I'm open to trading it. This year's first rounder was destined for Wingard all things being equal last year. So Sam Power is open to trading first rounders.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Bugger it, don't trade Pick 1

It’s because we’ve nailed so many early picks that we’re now in a perfext position to top up, especially when we’ve got some NGA gems tied to us next year.

And some to all of them may need to take time to develop. So we are going to be heavy on kids. This, plus picks, plus $1.7M gives us a great opportunity to re-balance the list with mature needs/role players of a good quality. Which will in turn speed up the arms on the premiership clock with any luck.

[GVGjr]

Re: Bugger it, don't trade Pick 1

It's a reasonable suggestion to preserve the number one pick this year but a couple of other considerations need to be added to the decision.
Do we need to strengthen the list now rather than potentially wait for the youngsters to develop?
Can we keep using our age and games played profile to explain losses if we aren't bold enough to take a chance on proven talented players when the opportunity presents?

We have a strong young profile already so is it time to roll the dice and invest to fast track our development?

[Happy Days]

Re: Bugger it, don't trade Pick 1

Trading first picks never works and trading picks inside 10 never ever works. Acquire from the bottom of other clubs for need and try to develop home grown stars.

I never want us to trade a first round pick for anyone.

[Bornadog]

Re: Bugger it, don't trade Pick 1

Next year players like Bont, Libba, Wallis, Dunkley, Daniel, Cordy, and many more will be one year older, with more games added to their profile. We won't be as young any more. Happy Days has nailed it, in the above post. We have done well with Lloyd, Duryea, Suckling - lets find some gems like that to service our needs.

[comrade]

Re: Bugger it, don't trade Pick 1

Next year players like Bont, Libba, Wallis, Dunkley, Daniel, Cordy, and many more will be one year older, with more games added to their profile. We won't be as young any more. Happy Days has nailed it, in the above post. We have done well with Lloyd, Duryea, Suckling - lets find some gems like that to service our needs.

Lloyd, Duryea & Suckling play in positions that are easiest to fill with fringe types. Our major personnel issues (key forward & defensive depth) can’t be immediately fixed through draft and unless you pay market value, you’re not prying a quality key position player away from their club. We’re a Naughton or Cordy injury away from disaster - or are you happy for Ryan Gardiner to be our back up plan?

[Bornadog]

Re: Bugger it, don't trade Pick 1

Lloyd, Duryea & Suckling play in positions that are easiest to fill with fringe types. Our major personnel issues (key forward & defensive depth) can’t be immediately fixed through draft and unless you pay market value, you’re not prying a quality key position player away from their club. We’re a Naughton or Cordy injury away from disaster - or are you happy for Ryan Gardiner to be our back up plan?

Who do we target then that is worth giving up pick 1?

[comrade]

Re: Bugger it, don't trade Pick 1

Who do we target then that is worth giving up pick 1?

I’d consider using our first rounder in a deal for either Bruce or Keath - obviously neither are worth the pick on its own, but if the player was packaged up in a worthwhile deal, I’d happily do it as it’d make our 22 immediately stronger.

[Bornadog]

Re: Bugger it, don't trade Pick 1

I’d consider using our first rounder in a deal for either Bruce or Keath - obviously neither are worth the pick on its own, but if the player was packaged up in a worthwhile deal, I’d happily do it as it’d make our 22 immediately stronger.

I don't mind either one, but don't think they are first rounders.

[Topdog]

Re: Bugger it, don't trade Pick 1

I live by the while never say never thing so I'm always open to trading our first round pick but i don't believe we've been linked with anyone that warrants a first round pick this season

[GVGjr]

Re: Bugger it, don't trade Pick 1

I think its a decent but not great argument, we dont have pick one we have a first round pick and it's still to be determined what pick we will have and we havent got the full picture of who might be on offer. We should be open for business and cast our net out wide.
I'd even be willing to potentially trade our first pick for others picks

I've typically been very supportive of a go to the drafts type approach especially with early picks but if there was ever a year to consider acquiring some ready made talent then this might be the year for us. We have plenty of cash to splash around and it will be better to be a player this year ourselves rather than just watch other clubs get stronger

If the deal makes sense and it makes us better in the shorter term then bugger it at least consider the options as they present

[jeemak]

Re: Bugger it, don't trade Pick 1

I'd prefer to always go to the draft with our first round pick rather than trade it. I mean this year we're all gung ho about giving up a first round pick for Jack Martin and worried about trading out anything more than a middle second round for Josh Bruce. On exposed form the latter is clearly the more valuable player, but when it comes to apportioning value to potential and what potential is worth in terms of draft picks we all go a little silly.

Becoming too young has nothing to do with it. If you hang on to your first draft pick each year and build up solid talent then eventually you'll have to give a few players away, which should balance things out anyway.

My genuine view is unless you can get another top draft pick back in through a trade then absolutely you shouldn't give up the one you have unless the most unusual circumstances call for it.