2023 Free Agency

[Grantysghost]

Re: 2023 Free Agency

Well it seems they are going to lose a very talented flanker in Zac Fisher. Wonder what has happened to him?

I really rate Fisher. Thought he would've kicked on by now.

[azabob]

Re: 2023 Free Agency

I really rate Fisher. Thought he would've kicked on by now.

According to a mate Fisher is...

not tough enough...plays some good 10 minute bursts and that about it. Very confident in his own ability

[ledge]

Re: 2023 Free Agency

I’ve yet to meet a Carlton fan who likes Fisher.

[soupman]

Re: 2023 Free Agency

Sign me up for Gresham, he's great. Is basically what we are trying to get West to be.

[Mantis]

Re: 2023 Free Agency

Sign me up for Gresham, he's great. Is basically what we are trying to get West to be.

I get the feeling he thinks he’s a little better what he is… and has selfish tendencies.

A big no for me.

[Mofra]

Re: 2023 Free Agency

According to a mate Fisher is...

not tough enough...plays some good 10 minute bursts and that about it. Very confident in his own ability

Salary dump to north for nothing. Two more years of contract on $400k+

I've actually liked summer of his football. Has genuine zip. Carlton supporters seen to think he can't build a big enough tank to play wing so I'm not interested.

[mjp]

Re: 2023 Free Agency

I've actually liked summer of his football. Has genuine zip. Carlton supporters seen to think he can't build a big enough tank to play wing so I'm not interested.

He's more inside than wing. Wont make it out there - clean hands around the contest is his #1 wood.

Play him inside instead of half-forward/outside mid and he's a different player.

[Mofra]

Re: 2023 Free Agency

He's more inside than wing. Wont make it out there - clean hands around the contest is his #1 wood.

Play him inside instead of half-forward/outside mid and he's a different player.

Can he make it as a small inside player?
You really need to be elite these days to do it. Libba, Neale, Rowell are all guys who naturally apply defense pressure too which I'm not sure is 'instinctive' for Fisher.

[Grantysghost]

Re: 2023 Free Agency

Gresham dropped.

[mjp]

Re: 2023 Free Agency

Can he make it as a small inside player?
You really need to be elite these days to do it. Libba, Neale, Rowell are all guys who naturally apply defense pressure too which I'm not sure is 'instinctive' for Fisher.

No idea...but that would be his go. Never going to be an outside player. Don't look at his build - look at the way he plays...

[jazzadogs]

Re: 2023 Free Agency

He's more inside than wing. Wont make it out there - clean hands around the contest is his #1 wood.

Play him inside instead of half-forward/outside mid and he's a different player.

I've always seen him and McLean as similar players, and neither kicked on in roles they weren't completely suited to.

Although one win a flag and had career ruined by injury.

[azabob]

Re: 2023 Free Agency

Being reported Himmleberg is staying at the giants.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: 2023 Free Agency

Being reported Himmleberg is staying at the giants.

Again, slim pickings in the free agency space then. So main ones are Doedee to Geelong. Gresham to Blues. McKay to Essendon.

Not really delivering the mass movement in players it was speculated it would.

[azabob]

Re: 2023 Free Agency

This snippet was in the article Doctor posted on the list management thread.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/992555/contract-call-looms-for-forward-crow-in-talks-pie-a-trade-option

FREE AGENCY CHANGE DISCUSSED
PLAYERS becoming restricted free agents after six years and unrestricted after eight years has been discussed as part of the AFL and AFL Players' Association's Collective Bargaining Agreement talks.

As negotiations continue on the next pay deal for players, with the hope it can be delivered before the end of the season, it is understood a change in free agency qualification has been raised by the players association to see players reach their free agency rights earlier.

Currently free agency rules see players first reach the mark after eight years, when they can be either restricted free agents if they are in the top quarter for salaries at that club or unrestricted free agents if they are not.

Then, after 10 years at a club, every player becomes eligible as an unrestricted free agent. There are other mechanisms to be a free agent, such as being delisted by a club, but the eight- and 10-year tenures are the most common.

The AFL has discussed increasing the initial contract for first-round draft picks from two to three years in a bid to allow clubs more time to settle players into their environments and improve retention.

That has led to the players union floating reducing free agency qualification for freer movement if the first deals for players are extended.

Under the scenario, the likes of Gold Coast spearhead Ben King, Western Bulldogs star Bailey Smith and Port Adelaide gun Zak Butters, who are all out of contract at the end of 2024, would become free agents.

Some believe that having six-year free agents would see clubs be a better chance of retaining players through to that stage because it is a mark to reach that isn't drastically far from the initial contract length, however there are also views that it would prevent clubs from investing in taller and developing players as they may not develop until their mid-20s when they have reached free agency.

Another factor could be that six years is considered too short before a player generally hits the peak of their careers and thus could see more stars likely to leave building teams.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: 2023 Free Agency

Leave it as it is. 6 years is way too short.

On the other hand guts like Dunkley walk out and pick a club anyway?