Williamstown vs Werribee Round 17

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  • Rocco Jones
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jun 2008
    • 6988

    #31
    Re: Williamstown vs Werribee Round 17

    Originally posted by Greystache
    Cooney can out ruck Cox, imagine what Cordy will do to him!
    Up to 32%

    Originally posted by azabob
    The most pleasing thing about Cordy is that when he does play he gets in the best players*.

    *best players according to the media covering the game
    Down to 26% (if it's good enough for our PM, it's good enough for our ruck combo).

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    • Greystache
      WOOF Member
      • Dec 2009
      • 9775

      #32
      Re: Williamstown vs Werribee Round 17

      Williamstown

      Goal Kickers: J. Roughead 3, J. Hill 3, M. Hahn 2, S. Reid 2, J. Tutt , E. Carr , P. VESZPREMI
      Best Players: B. Jolley, B. Johnson, J. Roughead, A. Cordy, D. Stretton, C. Howard

      Werribee Tigers

      Goal Kickers: S. Tighe 3, B. MCKINLEY 2, H. McIntosh , R. Castello , M. Daw , B. Dickson , K. Hartigan , J. Mather
      Best Players: B. SHARP, M. O''Dwyer, J. Mather, R. Prismall, N. Grima, K. Hartigan
      [COLOR="#FF0000"][B]Western Bulldogs:[/B][/COLOR] [COLOR="#0000CD"][B]We exist to win premierships[/B][/COLOR]

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      • LostDoggy
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 8307

        #33
        Re: Williamstown vs Werribee Round 17

        Originally posted by kruder
        Did Minson play? Or is he back in the twos?
        Minno played, didn't shine.

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        • Greystache
          WOOF Member
          • Dec 2009
          • 9775

          #34
          Re: Williamstown vs Werribee Round 17

          Originally posted by meshe1969
          Minno played, didn't shine.
          Did Roughy play as a permanent forward?
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          • Rocco Jones
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Jun 2008
            • 6988

            #35
            Re: Williamstown vs Werribee Round 17

            Originally posted by meshe1969
            Minno played, didn't shine.
            RoughAyce approval rating up to 37% now.

            I know it's not ideal but Minson and Hudson are hardly ideal anyway and really not suited to the NicNat/Cox combo.

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            • Happy Days
              Hall of Fame
              • May 2008
              • 10246

              #36
              Re: Williamstown vs Werribee Round 17

              Originally posted by Rocco Jones
              RoughAyce approval rating up to 37% now.

              I know it's not ideal but Minson and Hudson are hardly ideal anyway and really not suited to the NicNat/Cox combo.
              I like Ayce in the Rough better, personally.
              - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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              • Rocco Jones
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jun 2008
                • 6988

                #37
                Re: Williamstown vs Werribee Round 17

                Originally posted by Happy Days
                I like Ayce in the Rough better, personally.
                Oh wow! This might but somewhat due to my expectations being lowered but this is worth it alone.

                134% approval rating for Ayce in the Rough.

                Ayce in the Rough > Dinorucks

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                • Mantis
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 15548

                  #38
                  Re: Williamstown vs Werribee Round 17

                  Originally posted by bornadog
                  Whats there to lose, chuck them both into the deep end.
                  Just there long term well-being... Yeah nothing.

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                  • chef
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 14750

                    #39
                    Re: Williamstown vs Werribee Round 17

                    Originally posted by Mantis
                    Just there long term well-being... Yeah nothing.
                    You really think that?

                    I'm not advocating playing both just yet, but at least one of them should play each week(a couple of games each) for the rest of the season.
                    The curse is dead.

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                    • Happy Days
                      Hall of Fame
                      • May 2008
                      • 10246

                      #40
                      Re: Williamstown vs Werribee Round 17

                      Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                      Ayce in the Rough > Dinorucks
                      AitR couldn't go any worse than the dinorucks did against Cox and Naitanui
                      - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                      • The Underdog
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 6988

                        #41
                        Re: Williamstown vs Werribee Round 17

                        Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                        2012 temporary insanity? Look I don't think we should play them both next week but as scary as NicNat/Cox are, neither are monster type rucks. With an evenish spilit of ruck dutes, both would only have to play 50% of the time in the ruck and we have Jones as back up (am I just digging a bigger hole there?).

                        Remember, I said short answer was yes, it's crazy.
                        I just don't think either of them (particularly Cordy) will survive a whole season of senior football next year. Do we keep Minson around to be the 3rd wheel/back-up or do we try and trade him again and rely on Jones to be the back-up ruck option? All this is assuming that Hudson retires/gets his walking papers which given the club's recent list management I am not at all sure they will do. I'm not saying it couldn't work but we definitely need a good back-up plan.
                        I'd be tempted to dump Huddo, plan for Minson & Roughy as the rucks in the 21 and hope Cordy can push Minson aside.
                        Park that car
                        Drop that phone
                        Sleep on the floor
                        Dream about me

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                        • Rocco Jones
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 6988

                          #42
                          Re: Williamstown vs Werribee Round 17

                          Originally posted by Mantis
                          Just there long term well-being... Yeah nothing.
                          Physical or mental? As great as they are as a ruck combo, I don't think they are especially imposing physically.

                          With Will and Hudson being so limited as ruckmen it means that whenever Roughy gets a go he gets very limited spurts in the ruck. I really think momentum is huge as a ruckman and I am not sure it's a great role for Roughy/Cordy to fill.

                          Ayce/Roughy combo means they only really have to play about 50% TOG in the ruck each and can rotate throughout the game. You can even sub one and give Jones his time as a 2nd ruck.

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                          • GVGjr
                            Moderator
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 45586

                            #43
                            Re: Williamstown vs Werribee Round 17

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            Whats there to lose, chuck them both into the deep end.
                            Chucking people into the seniors before they are physically ready or before they have their best chance to succeed isn't they way to go. We have been so patient with Cordy I don't see the sense in pitting him against Cox and the other big guys from West Coast unless we are convinced it will be a major positive for him.
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                            • Mantis
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 15548

                              #44
                              Re: Williamstown vs Werribee Round 17

                              Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                              Physical or mental? As great as they are as a ruck combo, I don't think they are especially imposing physically.

                              With Will and Hudson being so limited as ruckmen it means that whenever Roughy gets a go he gets very limited spurts in the ruck. I really think momentum is huge as a ruckman and I am not sure it's a great role for Roughy/Cordy to fill.

                              Ayce/Roughy combo means they only really have to play about 50% TOG in the ruck each and can rotate throughout the game. You can even sub one and give Jones his time as a 2nd ruck.
                              Physical.

                              Roughead gets monstered when he plays in the ruck at AFL level.... If he plays extended minutes against Cox/ Nic Nat in the ruck I can only see him struggling.

                              Cordy has played just 3 games over the past 6 weeks due to injury, the last 2 weeks he has from reports hardly played in the ruck.

                              Roughy probably should come in to play as our 2nd ruck, but Cordy isn't ready and we should be focused on him getting ready to play next year.

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                              • azabob
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 15484

                                #45
                                Re: Williamstown vs Werribee Round 17

                                Originally posted by Mantis
                                Physical.


                                Roughy probably should come in to play as our 2nd ruck, but Cordy isn't ready and we should be focused on him getting ready to play next year.
                                RE Cordy realistically when do we expect him to be ready for AFL? We were saying the same thing last year about him.
                                More of an In Bruges guy?

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