Round 4- Williamstown vs North Ballarat

[Ghost Dog]

Re: Round 4- Williamstown vs North Ballarat

He's tall - 199cm - and still skinny, but presented well. He took 4-5 'uncontested' marks as a lead up target and maybe two contested marks (predominately by outstretching smaller opponents). He also a couple of defensive marks across half back.

He wouldn't have a lot more possessions other than those from marks, I'll guess and say he had 16 touches, 9 marks and 3 goals - a good days work.

Thanks for that SS. What's your best guess when we might see him in the senior side, if he continues to have these sort of games?

[Desipura]

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Thanks for that SS. What's your best guess when we might see him in the senior side, if he continues to have these sort of games?

He would have to be very close to playing senior footy, in fact I would play him this week against the Demons. Hill is not just a one trick pony, has the agility to have a stint down back or in the ruck.

[Bornadog]

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He would have to be very close to playing senior footy, in fact I would play him this week against the Demons. Hill is not just a one trick pony, has the agility to have a stint down back or in the ruck.

Who would you drop?

[Ghost Dog]

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He would have to be very close to playing senior footy, in fact I would play him this week against the Demons. Hill is not just a one trick pony, has the agility to have a stint down back or in the ruck.

Having already stated in the press conference he won't be making changes, wondering if the coach has not painted himself into a corner- selection wise. I think most of us would be happy to see at least one or two bold changes in response to the loss.

[Desipura]

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Who would you drop?

Cordy is the unlucky one.
Roughy plays half back with Marko full back.

[Bornadog]

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Cordy is the unlucky one.
Roughy plays half back with Marko full back.

I don't like bringing in players for just one game and dropping them.

[Desipura]

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I don't like bringing in players for just one game and dropping them.

It really is about team balance. Cordy is not a genuine forward, he does not have a forwards instinct, Hill does and could offer us a bit. Roughy did not look out of place at CHB, so he stays in.
I really cannot see the forward structure working again with Jones, Cordy, Roughy and Minson. Hill can take a contested mark and can take them on a lead, the latter being the key.

[Mofra]

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I don't like bringing in players for just one game and dropping them.

Especially young blokes.

Cordy basically played a lone hand up forward in the second half, kept presenting and making decent position (Jones seemed to drop his head). A guy in his third game getting double teamed constantly, yet still managed to top the team for tackles laid.

Deserves another game - I'd drop Roughy before Cordy, and I think we should so we can bring in another runner.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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Especially young blokes.

Cordy basically played a lone hand up forward in the second half, kept presenting and making decent position (Jones seemed to drop his head). A guy in his third game getting double teamed constantly, yet still managed to top the team for tackles laid.

Deserves another game - I'd drop Roughy before Cordy, and I think we should so we can bring in another runner.

I agree with the bolded.

I think Jones is close to a stint in the VFL, even withstanding the poor delivery he has received.

[Ozza]

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I agree with the bolded.

I think Jones is close to a stint in the VFL, even withstanding the poor delivery he has received.

I don't at all agree with the bolded!

Jones spent the whole night chasing tail, and doing it with real purpose after we bombed it into him 1 on 3. As usual - as it was for the last 3 years also, whenever we play a good side - we don't have a forward structure whatsoever - we just get dragged up the ground and leave the 1 or 2 forwards left over (who have already run back from the wing) to fight it out outnumbered.

Jones' attitude and competitiveness has been good. He was our only target for most of the Adelaide game and went ok.

[Missing Dog]

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I don't at all agree with the bolded!

Jones spent the whole night chasing tail, and doing it with real purpose after we bombed it into him 1 on 3. As usual - as it was for the last 3 years also, whenever we play a good side - we don't have a forward structure whatsoever - we just get dragged up the ground and leave the 1 or 2 forwards left over (who have already run back from the wing) to fight it out outnumbered.

Jones' attitude and competitiveness has been good. He was our only target for most of the Adelaide game and went ok.

I thought he worked hard as well along with Grant and Cordy I think it's Roughhead that misses this week although he may go back as Talia is not yet up to it. I really can't believe out kicking into the forward line we are getting it down there but nowhere near well enough.

[Raw Toast]

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It really is about team balance. Cordy is not a genuine forward, he does not have a forwards instinct, Hill does and could offer us a bit. Roughy did not look out of place at CHB, so he stays in.
I really cannot see the forward structure working again with Jones, Cordy, Roughy and Minson. Hill can take a contested mark and can take them on a lead, the latter being the key.

While I agree that we were too top heavy, I strongly disagree with the your statement re Cordy's lack of forward instincts. Jones was on a hiding to nothing (though he did burn his team-mates a couple of times by leading backwards rather than too the ball carrier which I think is a remnant of how the forward-line were asked to play the last couple of years).

Cordy however, presented very well and used his body really well on numerous occasions to put himself in the best position to take the mark. Unfortunately he dropped those marks, but we've got to persevere with him for at least a few weeks to see if he can start to clunk them.

I'm not a Cordy apologist, but he continually surprised me with how well he did in the one-on-one and one-on-many contests, and if he can start turning his good positioning into a few contested grabs close to goal then our forward line might start functioning on more than one cylinder.

[Mofra]

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Cordy however, presented very well and used his body really well on numerous occasions to put himself in the best position to take the mark. Unfortunately he dropped those marks, but we've got to persevere with him for at least a few weeks to see if he can start to clunk them.

I'm not a Cordy apologist, but he continually surprised me with how well he did in the one-on-one and one-on-many contests, and if he can start turning his good positioning into a few contested grabs close to goal then our forward line might start functioning on more than one cylinder.

It's important to have someone leading or making position whenever we have the ball to deliver - I remember in the bad old days where we had nobody except Johnson, and if he was double teamed our players would try and hold the ball up, often leading to a turnover well before it got into our F50.

Overall I was pretty pleased with Cordy's endeavour, and as mentioned previously 7 tackles (team leading) indicates that he was trying to be invovled in the game in any way he could. As the old adage goes, it may not be your game but it can be your moment.