National Draft Order

[westdog54]

Re: National Draft Order

If Adelaide don't get draft picks how do they get players to replace ones already gone? How does it work?

I can think of a couple of scenarios:

1. They'll have to promote their entire rookie list and re-fill it from the rookie draft;
2. Can enter the draft once all clubs have passed;
3. Excluded from the national draft altogether and can select players at the end of the preseason draft.

[GVGjr]

Re: National Draft Order

I can think of a couple of scenarios:

1. They'll have to promote their entire rookie list and re-fill it from the rookie draft;
2. Can enter the draft once all clubs have passed;
3. Excluded from the national draft altogether and can select players at the end of the preseason draft.

Well put. I wouldn't mind betting they are excluded from the first round next season as well.

[The Coon Dog]

Re: National Draft Order

Patrick Keane @AFL_PKeane

NAB AFL Draft to commence at 6pm Qld time (7pm AEDT), Thurs Nov 22. Rd 1 will now be conducted up 1-10, not 10-1 down, as per recent years.

2012 NAB AFL Draft will be broadcast live by Fox Footy, with radio coverage on http://afl.com.au , 3AW, 5AA and 6PR.

[azabob]

Re: National Draft Order

Well put. I wouldn't mind betting they are excluded from the first round next season as well.

If the AFL commission isn't meeting till Nov 19th surely they won't penalise Melb or Crows this draft?

[chef]

Re: National Draft Order

Patrick Keane @AFL_PKeane

NAB AFL Draft to commence at 6pm Qld time (7pm AEDT), Thurs Nov 22. Rd 1 will now be conducted up 1-10, not 10-1 down, as per recent years.

2012 NAB AFL Draft will be broadcast live by Fox Footy, with radio coverage on http://afl.com.au , 3AW, 5AA and 6PR.

Hooray. 10-1 sucked.

[Go_Dogs]

Re: National Draft Order

Hooray. 10-1 sucked.

Agreed. Glad common sense prevailed.

[EasternWest]

Re: National Draft Order

Hooray. 10-1 sucked.

Yep. What a stupid idea.

[Bulldog4life]

Re: National Draft Order

If the AFL commission isn't meeting till Nov 19th surely they won't penalise Melb or Crows this draft?

It will be interesting to see what happens. Who knows with the AFL.

[Bornadog]

Re: National Draft Order

AFL ditches top-10 countdown in draft

The AFL has ditched its top-10 countdown for revealing clubs' choices in the national draft.
For the past three years, the first 10 draft picks in the league's biggest annual recruiting meeting have been conducted behind closed doors then revealed in reverse order.

But for the November 22 draft on the Gold Coast, picks will be announced in their correct sequence.
The countdown method was designed to add a sense of drama to the event.

But there was little suspense last year given AFL newcomers Greater Western Sydney had eight of the first 10 picks, including the top five.
And the eventual No.1 pick, Jonathon Patton, had been widely forecast before the draft.

The Giants have the opening three picks in this year's draft, having been handed the top choice as wooden spooners this year. They traded recruiting concessions for the next two selections.

The Giants are expected to take Victorian midfielder Lachie Whitfield at No.1.

[Ghost Dog]

Re: National Draft Order

A fun article for all those Bulldogs fans getting uptight about a few places in the draft.


The Top Ten Dud Draft Picks

by Zac Smith on FEBRUARY 14, 2012 in FEATURED POSTS, LISTS, OPINION

Richard Tambling is an example of a poor draft choice. Picture courtesy Rachel Hofton.
While the ultra-professional nature of the draft now means it’s virtually impossible to not succeed on at least some level with a draft pick, at times it hasn’t been so simple, and that terrible idea of potential simply fails to deliver. Some may be cruelled by injury, others simply a bad option. Regardless, all have been bad for the drafting club in one way or another.

10 – Ben Edwards (Fremantle, Pick 7, 1995 Draft)
Ben Edwards was Freo’s second pick for their first draft. And was delisted by the start of the 1996 season without playing a game. Well done Fremantle. Jared Crouch was the very next pick, and Simon Prestigiacomo, Paul Licuria and Daniel Chick all featured later in that draft.

9 - Brandon Hill (West Coast, Pick 10, 1998 Draft)
Hill played a grand total of zero games for West Coast after simply not being good enough and was delisted in 1999. A pick which did so little for the club makes one wonder how much better the mid-2000s Eagles would have been if they had any of Lenny Hayes, Josh Carr, Jude Bolton or Brady Rawlings at their disposal.

8 – Brock McLean (Melbourne, Pick 5, 2003 Draft)
The man who would be captain, instead Brock McLean plays for Carlton now. While still an accumulator and a perfectly decent midfielder, McLean is noted for now being dreadfully slow more than anything else. While Melbourne did get some good years out of him, and since received a first-round pick from Carlton for the trade, he was not the leader that the Dees now have been crying out for. Particularly when players like Troy Chaplin, David Mundy and Brent Stanton were still available.

7 – Luke Molan (Melbourne, Pick 9, 2001 Draft)
Luke Molan played a grand total of zero games for the Dees. His own career was beset by injury problems and he was delisted by the end of 2004. You can’t fault a guy for being injury-plagued. However, you can fault the Demons when you look at some of the other names later in that draft – names such as Nick Dal Santo, Rick Ladson, James Kelly, Steve Johnson, Sam Mitchell, Paul Medhurst and Dane Swan.

6 – Aaron Fiora (Richmond, Pick 3, 1999 Draft)
Fiora’s story is one of continued struggle and failed development. Rated as a top youngster, Fiora never really showed his talents at Richmond, where he continually struggled. Indeed, the football public only saw the best out of him at his next club, St Kilda, where he was traded to in 2004 by Richmond. One can only imagine what the Tigers would have been able to do with a Luke McPharlin, a Darren Glass or a Bob Murphy though.

5 – Xavier Clarke (St Kilda, Pick 5, 2001 Draft)
While the much-touted draft of 2001 did have some super picks, there were some that weren’t great. St Kilda’s pick of Xav Clarke did reward them with a perfectly serviceable midfielder who did well for quite some time, although injury-prone. However, that failure to live up to potential coupled with some of the other players in that 2001 draft meant that Clarke’s pick ended up being rather poor for a St Kilda side needing to lift.

4 – Jarred Oakley-Nicholls (Richmond, Pick 8, 2005 Draft)
The infamous JON was Richmond’s first pick in the 2005 Draft. After playing a grand total of 13 games, he was delisted with injury problems as well as simply struggling with fitness and form. What the Tigers could have done with some of the later names in that draft, such as Mitch Clark, Shaun Higgins, Travis Varcoe or Nathan Jones by comparison must torture the long-suffering Richmond faithful.

3 - Caydn Beetham (St Kilda, Pick 9, 1999 Draft)
Beetham did have some great performances for St Kilda, notably picking up 2 Brownlow Votes in a game against Carlton in 2001 and being nominated for the Rising Star. Yet he was troubled as a footballer, with former coach Tim Watson noting that he rebuffed assistance from senior players and by the end simply didn’t care about football. It’s impossible to fault anyone in such a situation, but one must ask what could have been for St Kilda if they had a Paul Chapman or a Daniel Giansiracusa drafted instead.

2 – Richard Tambling (Richmond, Pick 4, 2004 Draft)
However, Richmond topped their own draft debacle with an even worse one. Richard Tambling was the first non-priority pick of the 2004 Draft. Now, Tambling is by no means not a serviceable player – but he has had nowhere near the impact of what should be expected of a #4 pick. Furthermore, he was noted as a perennial target for sledges towards underperforming Tigers – so much so that he has since been traded to Adelaide.

1 – Clive Waterhouse (Fremantle, Pick 1, 1995 Draft)
If you look up Clive Waterhouse on Wikipedia, it reads that, ‘his main attributes on the field were his pace, long kicking and ability to do the impossible, but often not to do the expected, which often ended in comical results’. It’s a good summary – Waterhouse had the ability to do the incredible, but seemingly not the steady, with the big forward only playing 106 games in nearly 10 years with the Dockers due to injuries and homesickness. Just imagine what Freo could have done with the player who went at pick 2, Matthew Primus.

[G-Mo77]

Re: National Draft Order

He's missed on McLean.

Bag him all you want and yeah he had a couple of shocking seasons but has put all the pieces back together again. To say Melbourne were way off because they missed Troy Chaplin, David Mundy and Brent Stanton is really reaching.

I'll always remember Fiora for his wrestle with Jordan McMahon on the wing. Funniest fight I've ever seen.

[Mofra]

Re: National Draft Order

I'll always remember Fiora for his wrestle with Jordan McMahon on the wing. Funniest fight I've ever seen.

Instantly reminds me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IkVgPmr2jo

[EasternWest]

Re: National Draft Order

He's missed on McLean.

Bag him all you want and yeah he had a couple of shocking seasons but has put all the pieces back together again. To say Melbourne were way off because they missed Troy Chaplin, David Mundy and Brent Stanton is really reaching.

I'll always remember Fiora for his wrestle with Jordan McMahon on the wing. Funniest fight I've ever seen.

I like the idea of the article, but it's missed the mark on a few in there IMO. If you acknowledge a "dud" in the article as serviceable, or decent, then they're not really dud picks are they? Same as commenting on what little return teams get from players, then follow it up with comments about how they were cruelled by injury. Even Fiora could play, he just didn't have the physicality or heart for it.

Also, I think Brock McLean, for all his limitations is actually pretty good. There, I said it.

Sure there are ten more likely top 10 draft selections that were used on guys who just weren't good enough. They would more rightly be called dud picks.

[jeemak]

Re: National Draft Order

I like the idea of the article, but it's missed the mark on a few in there IMO. If you acknowledge a "dud" in the article as serviceable, or decent, then they're not really dud picks are they? Same as commenting on what little return teams get from players, then follow it up with comments about how they were cruelled by injury. Even Fiora could play, he just didn't have the physicality or heart for it.

Also, I think Brock McLean, for all his limitations is actually pretty good. There, I said it.

Sure there are ten more likely top 10 draft selections that were used on guys who just weren't good enough. They would more rightly be called dud picks.

McLean is a very good footballer. He has his limitations with respect to pace, though he is still an intuitive accumulator of the football, and in a deep midfield where he's not the main target of a hard tag he'll add value (as he's shown recently now that he's fit and has been given an opportunity).

I suppose he suffers a bit from a scrutiny perspective because of the high price two clubs have paid for him, though that hardly makes him a dud.

The list overall is a bit off the mark. It's probably been a bit kind to us, and I feel it is one that could easily go on for another twenty players, at least!

[Remi Moses]

Re: National Draft Order

How Tardy has the AFL Been with the sanctions on Adelaide and Melbourne!!
In particular Adelaide, the Whole Tippet saga played out a month ago yet the AFL still hasn't decided anything.