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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 44721

    Potential draft considerations

    We all know this coming draft is one that doesn't have a consensus number 1 or 2 pick. There are no Tom Boyd, Jesse Hogan or Jack Martin to debate the early order but I do believe it's an even draft where we should be able to add 3 or 4 quality footballers.

    Since the departure of Barry Hall the focus has been on acquiring a genuine key forward which is easier said than done when the last few drafts have been so heavily compromised with concession picks etc.
    I'm taking a slightly different approach when assessing our needs going especially when I consider that at the end of 2015 could see the departure of two standout defensive players in Robert Murphy and Dale Morris.
    Murphy has been the creative player off half back, the one guy who consistently hits his targets and gets the ball moving forward quick. Morris has been the one player who is normally given the big defensive assignment. He can play on a variety of opponents and gets the job done each week.

    When I look at our current list I don't see ready made replacements. Wood has had a great season but he doesn't have the skills or nous that Murphy does. Roughead is good key defender but neither Roberts, Austin or Talia seem to be capable of doing what Morris does. Wood can give away some height to opponents but he can't play on too many talls.

    Looking at the draft candidates and there are a few players that I feel would fit our defensive needs.

    First up is Jayden Laverde who has often played as a forward but is a player I think could be a creative half back.
    He is quick and at 190cm can play on a variety of opponents. I like they way he takes on the game.
    He is a Western Jets boy as well.

    The next player I like is Sam Durdin who is a 197cm defender/forward/ruck from SA. He didn't have a great carnival as he carried a hand injury through it but he should develop into a good key position player.

    One player that really caught my eye was Caleb Marchbank who is 193cm tall and mobile enough to play off a back flank and with enough spring to all play as a CHB. During the carnival he was even used as a forward.

    Right at this moment and with plenty of football still to be played plus the combine, Marchbank is the player I wouldn't mind us recruiting.

    I'd like to hear peoples thoughts on what we need with our first pick ie tall, small, defender, mid or forward and if there are any particular players that have caught your eye?
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  • ledge
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2007
    • 14348

    #2
    Re: Potential draft considerations

    I heard someone on SEN the other day mention that teams start rebuilding from the back and the last thing that is built is the forward line, this seems to be the case with us, I do think we are at the stage our forwards are starting to show some flair and are about to show their wares.
    I'm not a believer our forward line is as bad as the press and fans say, one tall will be enough,I think even a swing man might cover it.
    On those lines I would look for a forward/swingman and another Darley type to take over from Morris.
    Bring back the biff

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    • The Bulldogs Bite
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2006
      • 11271

      #3
      Re: Potential draft considerations

      A 193cms running CHB with spring gives me nightmares about Everitt again.

      It's just not big enough to play key position at AFL level against the very good forwards IMO.
      W00F!

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 44721

        #4
        Re: Potential draft considerations

        Originally posted by The Bulldogs Bite
        A 193cms running CHB with spring gives me nightmares about Everitt again.

        It's just not big enough to play key position at AFL level against the very good forwards IMO.
        He's not 18 until December and he is already 85kg. I can see him being a vastly different player to Everitt who's main issue was his intensity. Think Alex Johnson before he copped a few injuries.
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        • The Doctor
          Coaching Staff
          • Jan 2007
          • 3702

          #5
          Re: Potential draft considerations

          I also think, and have stated elsewhere, our priority should be to bolster the back half. I don't mind if that's a KP type or a running creative type (just not a midget!). With Willams gone, Morris and murphy near the end and Lake not long departed I think we would be negligent not to bolster the back half roster this coming draft.

          Having said that the prospect of nabbing another big midfielder with our first pick would have to be tempting. For all my criticisms of our recruiting in recent years the one thing we have done well is bring in Smith, Bonts, Macrae, Stringer as big boys who can play midfield as well as other positions. So adding to that could give us a unique edge in the forthcoming years.

          Therefore if Petracca was available at our pick how would everyone feel? He's a man-child and some might argue his upside is limited but I don't buy that.
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          • wimberga
            WOOF Member
            • Nov 2007
            • 851

            #6
            Re: Potential draft considerations

            Originally posted by The Doctor
            I also think, and have stated elsewhere, our priority should be to bolster the back half. I don't mind if that's a KP type or a running creative type (just not a midget!). With Willams gone, Morris and murphy near the end and Lake not long departed I think we would be negligent not to bolster the back half roster this coming draft.

            Having said that the prospect of nabbing another big midfielder with our first pick would have to be tempting. For all my criticisms of our recruiting in recent years the one thing we have done well is bring in Smith, Bonts, Macrae, Stringer as big boys who can play midfield as well as other positions. So adding to that could give us a unique edge in the forthcoming years.

            Therefore if Petracca was available at our pick how would everyone feel? He's a man-child and some might argue his upside is limited but I don't buy that.
            First pick = best available.

            If any of Petracca, McCartin or Wright slip and are available at our pick, we will take them.

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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34289

              #7
              Re: Potential draft considerations

              Originally posted by wimberga
              First pick = best available.

              If any of Petracca, McCartin or Wright slip and are available at our pick, we will take them.
              Yep, if we can't find a Patton type trade, then this. For what it's worth I'm guessing PM will be gone, between Wright and Petracca, I'd go Wright.
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              • comrade
                Hall of Fame
                • Jun 2008
                • 18048

                #8
                Re: Potential draft considerations

                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                Yep, if we can't find a Patton type trade, then this. For what it's worth I'm guessing PM will be gone, between Wright and Petracca, I'd go Wright.
                Tough call, Petracca looks like he'll be a better version of Jake Stringer (and I rate JS highly).
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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34289

                  #9
                  Re: Potential draft considerations

                  Originally posted by comrade
                  Tough call, Petracca looks like he'll be a better version of Jake Stringer (and I rate JS highly).
                  I saw Wright early-ish in the tac at Simmonds, a part from being enormous already some recruiters nearby kept saying Barry Hall throughout the second half. Petracca looked good live too in the champs I got too, but it's a hairline call.
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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 44721

                    #10
                    Re: Potential draft considerations

                    Originally posted by comrade
                    Tough call, Petracca looks like he'll be a better version of Jake Stringer (and I rate JS highly).
                    I drew a comparison a while back that Petracca was somewhere between a Stringer and Smith. If we are to take a mid then I think they need to be a versatile mid. Eventually there will be a cap in interchange rotations so they will need to be able to play in other positions but also be productive. Petracca could do that.
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                    • lemmon
                      Bulldog Team of the Century
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 6528

                      #11
                      Re: Potential draft considerations

                      I like the sound of Durdin especially seeing the success of guys like Henderson, Ben Reid and Carlisle who may not be swingmen but have developed back before being moved forward for need and showing they could do a more than handy job. He may be a project type but we desperately need height at either end of the ground.

                      If we go mid I'd prefer we found one with some pace and skill as a point of difference, I've brought up Weller who reminds me a lot of Mayes and could develop on a flank first but if Petracca slid we would be silly not to grab him as best available.

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                      • Throughandthrough
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 3201

                        #12
                        Re: Potential draft considerations

                        I watched Harrison Wigg play today, good sized defender with deadly kicking skills. Won the award for MVP for SA U18 team this year. Definitely caught my eye as a solid player.

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                        • Scorlibo
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 3087

                          #13
                          Re: Potential draft considerations

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          I drew a comparison a while back that Petracca was somewhere between a Stringer and Smith. If we are to take a mid then I think they need to be a versatile mid. Eventually there will be a cap in interchange rotations so they will need to be able to play in other positions but also be productive. Petracca could do that.
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                          • chef
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 14634

                            #14
                            Re: Potential draft considerations

                            Originally posted by wimberga
                            First pick = best available.

                            If any of Petracca, McCartin or Wright slip and are available at our pick, we will take them.

                            Same for me, for an early pick like we have it should always be best available.
                            The curse is dead.

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                            • Go_Dogs
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 10168

                              #15
                              Re: Potential draft considerations

                              It really depends on who is available and where our selection ends up. I find it really tough to make a call because of the number of developing players we have - crystal-balling who may be the best fit for our list in 2-3 years time and beyond is the challenge.

                              With Murph nearing an end, Higgins potentially moving on, perhaps a player who can play a role off half back is our most pressing need - but I'm happy to just see how the cards fall and take the player we rate as the most likely to have a long AFL career with our first pick.
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