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  • Bornadog
    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
    • Jan 2007
    • 65653

    ODI Squad - Summer 2018

    Glenn Maxwell not included. Tim Paine takes Wades role.

    Steve Smith (c), David Warner, Aaron Finch, Mitch Marsh, Marcus Stoinis, Travis Head, Chris Lynn, Tim Paine, Pat Cummins, Mitchell Starc, Josh Hazlewood, Andrew Tye, Adam Zampa, Jhye Richardson
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  • lemmon
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Nov 2008
    • 6437

    #2
    Re: ODI Squad - Summer 2018

    Really not sure Lynn's ready yet, apparently still working his way back to fitness.

    I do like the inclusion of Richardson - always seems to rush batsman. Keen to see whether he can do the same at international level.

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    • Twodogs
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 27638

      #3
      Re: ODI Squad - Summer 2018

      Originally posted by lemmon
      Really not sure Lynn's ready yet, apparently still working his way back to fitness.

      I do like the inclusion of Richardson - always seems to rush batsman. Keen to see whether he can do the same at international level.
      Good to see AJ Tye in the team too. Hopefully he proves Broad wrong about our bowling depth and has him and his teamates hopping around from foot to foot.
      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 43934

        #4
        Re: ODI Squad - Summer 2018

        Originally posted by Twodogs
        Good to see AJ Tye in the team too. Hopefully he proves Broad wrong about our bowling depth and has him and his teamates hopping around from foot to foot.
        I think it was Anderson talking about our test bowling stocks not Broad. We've always had plenty of depth with ODI or T20 teams
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        • Ozza
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • Mar 2008
          • 6380

          #5
          Re: ODI Squad - Summer 2018

          Squad looks light a recognised batsman if Lynn isn't ready to play 50 over cricket.

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          • jeemak
            Bulldog Legend
            • Oct 2010
            • 21444

            #6
            Re: ODI Squad - Summer 2018

            Apparently Lynn can't throw properly on his preferred arm, and has a dodgy hamstring.

            Maxwell according to Smith needs to "train smarter" to be considered for a spot. Admittedly his recent averages in the national team are less than satisfactory however, it seems from the outside personalities are keeping him out more than anything.

            I'd love to know how the love-in selection patterns actually affect how national teams are selected. If the Australian cricket team wants our adulation, it needs to be a meritocracy when selected. It's been going on for years, sure the selectors got it right for the test series but our current Australian team is only slightly better than England was in the 90's and early 2000's, they're lucky they've been playing against something considerably worse.
            TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 43934

              #7
              Re: ODI Squad - Summer 2018

              Originally posted by jeemak
              Apparently Lynn can't throw properly on his preferred arm, and has a dodgy hamstring.

              Maxwell according to Smith needs to "train smarter" to be considered for a spot. Admittedly his recent averages in the national team are less than satisfactory however, it seems from the outside personalities are keeping him out more than anything.

              I'd love to know how the love-in selection patterns actually affect how national teams are selected. If the Australian cricket team wants our adulation, it needs to be a meritocracy when selected. It's been going on for years, sure the selectors got it right for the test series but our current Australian team is only slightly better than England was in the 90's and early 2000's, they're lucky they've been playing against something considerably worse.
              I was listening to Maxwell talk about his career and his 'non selection' a while ago. He regrets nothing with shot selections that have caused him to be dropped from teams and he believes he plays the game in the right way...entertaining. He also mentioned that his non selection might be due to him being opinionated. His version of opinionated might be otherwise interpreted as arrogant and some who shoots off at the mouth.

              I hope when he looks back on his career in 10 years time he's still comfortable with the notion that his 'opinionated' manner stopped him for playing more for Australia. On talent he should play a lot of cricket for Australia but he comes across as someone who is difficult and selfish.
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              • Bornadog
                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                • Jan 2007
                • 65653

                #8
                Re: ODI Squad - Summer 2018

                Chris Lynn out of squad due to injury. Replacement to be announced.
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                • lemmon
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 6437

                  #9
                  Re: ODI Squad - Summer 2018

                  Originally posted by bornadog
                  Chris Lynn out of squad due to injury. Replacement to be announced.
                  Backed themselves into a corner. Smith's comments have made Maxwell almost unselectable.

                  Worrying that the World Cup is next year, you'd want the side more stable than we've currently seen.

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                  • Bornadog
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                    • Jan 2007
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                    #10
                    Re: ODI Squad - Summer 2018

                    Originally posted by lemmon
                    Backed themselves into a corner. Smith's comments have made Maxwell almost unselectable.

                    Worrying that the World Cup is next year, you'd want the side more stable than we've currently seen.
                    Is Cameron White worth looking at? In hot form in the BBL.
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                    • jeemak
                      Bulldog Legend
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 21444

                      #11
                      Re: ODI Squad - Summer 2018

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      Is Cameron White worth looking at? In hot form in the BBL.
                      Because of the ridiculous domestic scheduling and the fact BBL is the only current form guide, yes, he is.

                      I love test cricket to bits, but I am growing more fond of 50 over cricket the more prevalent 20-20 becomes due to the strategic nature of the former and the small concessions given to the bowler in that format. To think that over the summer at the most crucial times to select test teams at the end of a series, and 50 over teams prior to a series commencing we only have BBL as a form guide is something else.

                      What kind of close minded ammo shit is this?

                      Commercially, I think BBL would benefit from having games played in clusters spaced out over weeks, and the other formats which form the basis of our national cricketing calendar would also benefit. The upside is we'd get some form line to debate when national teams are selected.
                      TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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                      • hujsh
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 11759

                        #12
                        Re: ODI Squad - Summer 2018

                        Originally posted by jeemak
                        Because of the ridiculous domestic scheduling and the fact BBL is the only current form guide, yes, he is.

                        I love test cricket to bits, but I am growing more fond of 50 over cricket the more prevalent 20-20 becomes due to the strategic nature of the former and the small concessions given to the bowler in that format. To think that over the summer at the most crucial times to select test teams at the end of a series, and 50 over teams prior to a series commencing we only have BBL as a form guide is something else.

                        What kind of close minded ammo shit is this?

                        Commercially, I think BBL would benefit from having games played in clusters spaced out over weeks, and the other formats which form the basis of our national cricketing calendar would also benefit. The upside is we'd get some form line to debate when national teams are selected.
                        One possible there issue there is it'd probably be harder to get the international players to fly over if it took longer. Not that it should really matter but it'd be a concern.
                        [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                        • westdog54
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 6683

                          #13
                          Re: ODI Squad - Summer 2018

                          Originally posted by jeemak
                          Apparently Lynn can't throw properly on his preferred arm, and has a dodgy hamstring.

                          Maxwell according to Smith needs to "train smarter" to be considered for a spot. Admittedly his recent averages in the national team are less than satisfactory however, it seems from the outside personalities are keeping him out more than anything.

                          I'd love to know how the love-in selection patterns actually affect how national teams are selected. If the Australian cricket team wants our adulation, it needs to be a meritocracy when selected. It's been going on for years, sure the selectors got it right for the test series but our current Australian team is only slightly better than England was in the 90's and early 2000's, they're lucky they've been playing against something considerably worse.
                          Dirk Nannes gave a full-throated defence of Maxwell whilst simultaneously blasting the selectors for leaving him out of the squad.

                          In references to his recent averages, Nannes gave some context to some of the scores, indicating that there were a couple of instances when he came out to bat in the last few overs with plenty of wickets in hand, and would have been under instruction to score runs quickly.

                          If there's an actual issue keeping him out of the side then come out and say so, but don't use half baked statistics to do it. They end up looking like a bunch of idiots.

                          If I were Maxwell, I reckon I'd be close to saying to Cricket Australia "If you're not going to pick me irrespective of what I do, don't bother contracting me next time around. I'll follow Chris Gayle's lead and make heaps of money on the international T20 circuit."

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34316

                            #14
                            Re: ODI Squad - Summer 2018

                            I've not seen much Big Bash. But I've fluked seeing D'Arcy Short the last three innings. He's as white hot as anyone since Warner forced his way into the ODI side. Of the 3 innings I've seen, he's scored 310+ runs, strike rate around 170 or so, averaging over 100 and with the new highest score in BB history. Chris Lynn got a chance for the ODIs for similar.
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                            • Ozza
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 6380

                              #15
                              Re: ODI Squad - Summer 2018

                              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                              I've not seen much Big Bash. But I've fluked seeing D'Arcy Short the last three innings. He's as white hot as anyone since Warner forced his way into the ODI side. Of the 3 innings I've seen, he's scored 310+ runs, strike rate around 170 or so, averaging over 100 and with the new highest score in BB history. Chris Lynn got a chance for the ODIs for similar.
                              Great point. And add to that, that he is scoring big runs playing excellent 'cricket shots'. His bowling is quite reasonable also, and adds something different as a left arm wrist spinner.

                              Only issue is that we have two 'locks' as openers in Warner and Finch - but you'd think Short could bat 3 and Smith 4.

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