First test - Australia v India, Adelaide

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  • Twodogs
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 27681

    #76
    Re: First test - Australia v India, Adelaide

    Originally posted by bulldogtragic
    One of the commentators today said that Marsh has been dismissed for 0-9 runs in his test career 41% of the time. Hard to work out how he keeps a spot when over the years Hughes, Khawaja and others have been dropped for years at a time when lean times came. At 41% of 0-9 runs per innings, Marsh is the Governor General of Lean Times. Let's see if he can make a 50 an ekk out a few more tests.
    Charlie McCartney of the great Australian cricketers of all time was nicknamed the governer General. We could do with a player like him ATM.
    They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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    • Axe Man
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2008
      • 11486

      #77
      Re: First test - Australia v India, Adelaide

      Finch has an ordinary record as an opener in Shield cricket and a decent recent record batting in the middle order, so why select him to open in Australia?

      I think almost everyone would like to see Renshaw back in the side but his current form is abysmal, Shield scores this year are: 3, 0, 89, 21, 21, 6, 2, 16, 14, 27 (199 runs @ 19.9). I don't think he can come back in until he shows some semblance of form.

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      • lemmon
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Nov 2008
        • 6593

        #78
        Re: First test - Australia v India, Adelaide

        Originally posted by Axe Man
        Finch has an ordinary record as an opener in Shield cricket and a decent recent record batting in the middle order, so why select him to open in Australia?

        I think almost everyone would like to see Renshaw back in the side but his current form is abysmal, Shield scores this year are: 3, 0, 89, 21, 21, 6, 2, 16, 14, 27 (199 runs @ 19.9). I don't think he can come back in until he shows some semblance of form.
        The selectors more or less made a rod for their own back by taking him to Dubai. You can get away with not playing a specialist opener on those wickets but then you almost have to select him for the first few tests here after he did an okay job.

        Agree that they can't pick Renshaw on current form (or any other opener, really). The other factor in all this is that Bancroft is back available for selection from December 29...

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        • Mofra
          Hall of Fame
          • Dec 2006
          • 15112

          #79
          Re: First test - Australia v India, Adelaide

          Maddinson broken arm in the Shield. He must have been in the discussion.

          Finch back to the middle order, he's not even a state level opener let alone test. God the cupboard is bare at the top of the order.
          Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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          • Twodogs
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 27681

            #80
            Re: First test - Australia v India, Adelaide

            Originally posted by Mofra
            Maddinson broken arm in the Shield. He must have been in the discussion.

            Finch back to the middle order, he's not even a state level opener let alone test. God the cupboard is bare at the top of the order.
            It's not too flash in the middle order either.

            But opening is a specialist position and not every team is going to have a Dave Warner. Not every era is going to have a Warner, the guy is a freak in the way he bats and the fact that he opens. Finch is never going to be the player and trying to manufacture him into it is not going to work. He has to go back to the middle order and we have to find a actual opening batsman to open the batting.

            Maybe Justin Langer should make a comeback, take over the captaincy and play the role of the good old fashioned footy captain coach? We could do worse.
            They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 67678

              #81
              Re: First test - Australia v India, Adelaide

              need 100 to win with only 3 wickets left
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              • Topdog
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 7483

                #82
                Re: First test - Australia v India, Adelaide

                Originally posted by bornadog
                need 100 to win with only 3 wickets left
                Highly likely that we will lose but good fightback

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                • bulldogtragic
                  The List Manager
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 34289

                  #83
                  Re: First test - Australia v India, Adelaide

                  71 runs, 2 wickets
                  Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                  • Greystache
                    WOOF Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 9775

                    #84
                    Re: First test - Australia v India, Adelaide

                    Imagine we had 2 of the best batsmen in the world playing rather than carrying a couple of walking wickets, we'd have won this Test easily.

                    But hey, at least we're virtuous!
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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34289

                      #85
                      Re: First test - Australia v India, Adelaide

                      Originally posted by Greystache
                      Imagine we had 2 of the best batsmen in the world playing rather than carrying a couple of walking wickets, we'd have won this Test easily.

                      But hey, at least we're virtuous!
                      I hope you're braced for 'Smith & Warner actually cost Australia the test victory here because of their abhorrent behaviour in South Africa'. I bet you that's muttered somewhere by at the latest later tonight.
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • Greystache
                        WOOF Member
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 9775

                        #86
                        Re: First test - Australia v India, Adelaide

                        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                        I hope you're braced for 'Smith & Warner actually cost Australia the test victory here because of their abhorrent behaviour in South Africa'. I bet you that's muttered somewhere by at the latest later tonight.
                        Oh no doubt. It will be a good news story for the Australia media, they can celebrate Australia losing while also condemning senior players (and da teamz kulcha) for costing the country a Test win that they can claim they really wanted. Crash Craddock will be ecstatic!
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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34289

                          #87
                          Re: First test - Australia v India, Adelaide

                          Originally posted by Greystache
                          Oh no doubt. It will be a good news story for the Australia media, they can celebrate Australia losing while also condemning senior players (and da teamz kulcha) for costing the country a Test win that they can claim they really wanted. Crash Craddock will be ecstatic!
                          Well this is going to a very long and boring summer with predictable 'insights'. I wonder if there's going to be a national discussion around us having no batting depth across the entire country. That's the real story when you ban the two best batsman. Surely with the state set ups, junior squads and the academy you'd expect something resembling a decent batsman.
                          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                          • hujsh
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 11960

                            #88
                            Re: First test - Australia v India, Adelaide

                            Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                            Well this is going to a very long and boring summer with predictable 'insights'. I wonder if there's going to be a national discussion around us having no batting depth across the entire country. That's the real story when you ban the two best batsman. Surely with the state set ups, junior squads and the academy you'd expect something resembling a decent batsman.
                            That's exactly right. For too long we've depended unhealthily on Smith and his fantastic performances covered up just how awful our batting depth is. That there is seemingly no one with a strong claim for a test spot in astounding to me.
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                            • SlimPickens
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 2929

                              #89
                              Re: First test - Australia v India, Adelaide

                              Originally posted by Greystache
                              Imagine we had 2 of the best batsmen in the world playing rather than carrying a couple of walking wickets, we'd have won this Test easily.

                              But hey, at least we're virtuous!
                              I'm staggered by the narrative around the test squad, it's like Warner and Smith wont be walk up starts as soon as they're available? Apart from the fact they are the countries best batsmen and both top 10 batsmen in the world, people actually pay to go watch them play!
                              "Loves a scrap....oh yeah & he's a pretty handy footballer as well"

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                              • Bornadog
                                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 67678

                                #90
                                Re: First test - Australia v India, Adelaide

                                One of our best bats not throwing his wicket away.................. Nathan Lyon
                                FFC: Established 1883

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