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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    Re: Commonwealth Games

    Apparently the official figure to not have the games (which their own report said not to have) is $380,000,000 in lost taxpayers money - but the actual figure is likely to be substantially higher.

    Can we just add in $50,000,000 to make WO a genuine AFEL stadium and hide the loss here?
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 44625

      Re: Commonwealth Games

      It's a substantial number isn't it to not get anything return?
      Spread that money around some regional towns and wonderful things could be built.

      Has another venue for the Games been located yet?
      It would be a shame to lose the games all together.
      Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66690

        Re: Commonwealth Games

        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
        Apparently the official figure to not have the games (which their own report said not to have) is $380,000,000 in lost taxpayers money - but the actual figure is likely to be substantially higher.

        Can we just add in $50,000,000 to make WO a genuine AFEL stadium and hide the loss here?
        Better than $6 Billion
        FFC: Established 1883

        Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34289

          Re: Commonwealth Games

          Originally posted by bornadog
          Better than $6 Billion
          $380M to pay out something their own expert panel said not to bid for?

          Better they accepted their own report me thinks and not bid.
          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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          • EasternWest
            Hall of Fame
            • Aug 2009
            • 10002

            Re: Commonwealth Games

            Originally posted by bornadog
            Better than $6 Billion
            I love you BAD, but sometimes you need to take the L.

            Absolute howler from the Government.
            "It's over. It's all over."

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            • Bornadog
              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
              • Jan 2007
              • 66690

              Re: Commonwealth Games

              Originally posted by EasternWest
              I love you BAD, but sometimes you need to take the L.

              Absolute howler from the Government.
              What is the L ?
              FFC: Established 1883

              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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              • EasternWest
                Hall of Fame
                • Aug 2009
                • 10002

                Re: Commonwealth Games

                Originally posted by bornadog
                What is the L ?
                Loss.

                There's no defending it by saying "better than 6 billion". That's revisionist history that could go back to "better if Daniel Andrews parents never met" (which is silly and I don't think it but where do you stop.)

                Every now and then it's ok to say the side you're on got one wrong. And they did on this.
                "It's over. It's all over."

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66690

                  Re: Commonwealth Games

                  Originally posted by EasternWest
                  Loss.

                  There's no defending it by saying "better than 6 billion". That's revisionist history that could go back to "better if Daniel Andrews parents never met" (which is silly and I don't think it but where do you stop.)

                  Every now and then it's ok to say the side you're on got one wrong. And they did on this.
                  Agree turned out to be a disaster, but at least the Gov pulled out before it was a total disaster. Wasted money, but it is what it is.

                  PS: I wasn't defending anything, just saying if it did go ahead it would be worse.
                  FFC: Established 1883

                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • D Mitchell
                    WOOF Member
                    • Jan 2023
                    • 652

                    Re: Commonwealth Games

                    Alert for those attracted to Athletics and assorted other boomer interests . World Athletics Championships on SBS Vice starting shortly, 4.40. Up against stiff competition, though. Secret Nazi Bases on SBS and Support Your Local Gunfighter on Gem, both at 5.30.

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                    • Bulldog Joe
                      Premiership Moderator
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 5565

                      Re: Commonwealth Games

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      Agree turned out to be a disaster, but at least the Gov pulled out before it was a total disaster. Wasted money, but it is what it is.

                      PS: I wasn't defending anything, just saying if it did go ahead it would be worse.
                      It is a total disaster regardless
                      Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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                      • bulldogtragic
                        The List Manager
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 34289

                        Re: Commonwealth Games

                        Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                        It is a total disaster regardless
                        Yep. Imagine how much we could pay out fire fighters with that spare.

                        Or hospitals, nurses, police, schools, teachers with $380,000,000+

                        Just a cluster ****.
                        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                        • Eastdog
                          WOOF Communtiy Organiser
                          • Feb 2012
                          • 18284

                          Re: Commonwealth Games

                          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                          Yep. Imagine how much we could pay out fire fighters with that spare.

                          Or hospitals, nurses, police, schools, teachers with $380,000,000+

                          Just a cluster ****.
                          Just more money by the Vic state government wasted which could have been used in other key areas need. Just huge incompetence. If they could not take it on there they should never have signed the contract in the first place.
                          "Footscray people are incredible people; so humble. I'm just so happy - ecstatic"

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                          • D Mitchell
                            WOOF Member
                            • Jan 2023
                            • 652

                            Re: Commonwealth Games

                            Governments are supposed to set realistic budgets every year. For longer term projects, funding is in provisions which should be included in annual Budgets. The Public Service, really the Department of Treasury, is supposed to provide expertise to enable Politicians to present budgets that allow Governments to fund its operations. 4 $bil difference is approaching Royal Commission seriousness. Unexpected events, like covid, aren't the fault of government but the Commonwealth Games bid was a year after the last lockdown. We have the government we deserve.

                            On a happier note, 3 heats of the 3,000 metres steeplechase is being/has been fun to watch. Some of those blokes completely cleared the water jump.

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                            • EasternWest
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Aug 2009
                              • 10002

                              Re: Commonwealth Games

                              Originally posted by D Mitchell
                              Alert for those attracted to Athletics and assorted other boomer interests . World Athletics Championships on SBS Vice starting shortly, 4.40. Up against stiff competition, though. Secret Nazi Bases on SBS and Support Your Local Gunfighter on Gem, both at 5.30.
                              God I love some of the directions you take. Please never stop.

                              Originally posted by D Mitchell
                              Governments are supposed to set realistic budgets every year. For longer term projects, funding is in provisions which should be included in annual Budgets. The Public Service, really the Department of Treasury, is supposed to provide expertise to enable Politicians to present budgets that allow Governments to fund its operations. 4 $bil difference is approaching Royal Commission seriousness. Unexpected events, like covid, aren't the fault of government but the Commonwealth Games bid was a year after the last lockdown. We have the government we deserve.
                              And it's still far superior to the alternative, but that's a bit depressing not uplifting.
                              "It's over. It's all over."

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                              • EasternWest
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 10002

                                Re: Commonwealth Games

                                Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                                Yep. Imagine how much we could pay out fire fighters with that spare.

                                Or hospitals, nurses, police, schools, teachers with $380,000,000+

                                Just a cluster ****.
                                I anticipate the union is already planning on ways to make a claim for our share of the 5.62 billion saved.

                                I for one look forward to purchasing my second Bentley.
                                "It's over. It's all over."

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