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  • GVGjr
    Moderator
    • Nov 2006
    • 43988

    #76
    Re: First Test - Australia v India in Perth 22-26 November 2024

    Marsh is a bit sore after his bowling stint and Webster is likely to be added to the squad



    Late-blooming Tasmanian all-rounder Beau Webster is poised to join the Australian Test squad as cover for the sore Mitch Marsh.

    Webster, 30, has had an outstanding couple of years in first-class cricket, topping the Sheffield Shield run scorers list last season while also impressing for English county Gloucestershire this year.

    His form has continued into this season and even this week, with Webster picking up five wickets as well as scores of 61 and 49 in Tassie’s Shield win against NSW last week.

    He was among Australia A’s best in the recent series against India A.

    Having bowled off-spin for much of his career, Webster turned his hand to medium pace in recent seasons, a shift that has proved highly effective.

    Forced to step up his bowling loads in the absence of the injured Cameron Green, Marsh bowled 17 overs during the first Test but pulled up worse for wear.

    Given the second Test doesn’t start until next Friday, Marsh remains a strong chance to play but Webster could come into serious contention later in the series given the short breaks between Tests from that point.

    “We knew that Mitch was slightly underdone coming in but I thought the performance in the first innings was satisfactory,” said Australian coach Andrew McDonald.

    Aussie white-ball gloveman Josh Inglis remains in the squad and is another option to replace Marsh in the middle order, albeit he would not provide the bowling output provided by Webster.

    Tasmanian captain Jordan Silk backed Webster’s ability to perform at any time, and under immense pressure.

    “Yeah, he’s a special player at the moment,” Silk said.

    “Anytime I feel like we’re in trouble I feel like I can throw him the ball and he just seems to be able to create something, or anytime we’re in similar trouble with the bat then he’s able to dig us out of it.

    “I know there’s a bit of talk probably around him potentially as a backup all-rounder and I’m very supportive of that move if they are to go that way because I think he’s shown in the last 18 to 24 months that he’s one of the best Sheffield Shield players currently.”

    Silk said Webster, who spearheaded Tasmania’s the rout of Western Australia earlier this season, taking 6-17 as WA lost a staggering 8-1, had gained the respect of the competition on the back of his performances.

    “He’s basically playing as our third seamer and top-six batter which is a pretty good luxury to have on our side,” Silk said.

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    “He’d probably say it was one of the best career moves of all time.

    “He could give up his dirty offies and go to seam bowling because it’s now looking like it could open many more doors for him

    “I think he’s gained the respect of the competition with those seamers and that probably took maybe a year or two for people to really see that.”
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    • Stevo
      WOOF Member
      • May 2008
      • 1010

      #77
      Re: First Test - Australia v India in Perth 22-26 November 2024

      Marsh bowled just 17 overs and there is a doubt on him being available for Friday week?
      He better learn to make it purely on his batting.

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      • Axe Man
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2008
        • 10925

        #78
        Re: First Test - Australia v India in Perth 22-26 November 2024

        Originally posted by Stevo
        Marsh bowled just 17 overs and there is a doubt on him being available for Friday week?
        He better learn to make it purely on his batting.
        To be fair he is in the side pretty much just for his batting, if Green wasn't injured he wouldn't have bowled many overs. He has a long history of breaking down when he bowls too much.

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        • GVGjr
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 43988

          #79
          Re: First Test - Australia v India in Perth 22-26 November 2024

          Originally posted by Stevo
          Marsh bowled just 17 overs and there is a doubt on him being available for Friday week?
          He better learn to make it purely on his batting.
          17 overs isn't a lot of work and given the test finished a day early he's got more than sufficient time to recover.


          Originally posted by Axe Man
          To be fair he is in the side pretty much just for his batting, if Green wasn't injured he wouldn't have bowled many overs. He has a long history of breaking down when he bowls too much.
          If we are prepared to play him just as a batsman why is the need to add Webster unless we are looking at the whole series more than the next test?
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          • Axe Man
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 10925

            #80
            Re: First Test - Australia v India in Perth 22-26 November 2024

            Originally posted by GVGjr
            17 overs isn't a lot of work and given the test finished a day early he's got more than sufficient time to recover.




            If we are prepared to play him just as a batsman why is the need to add Webster unless we are looking at the whole series more than the next test?
            I'm sure you already know the answer - because Green isn't playing and Marsh can't sustain any significant bowling loads. As the article says Marsh will likely be ok for Adelaide but he isn't likely to be able to keep bowling anything more than a few overs an innings over a 5 test series. If they want a genuine fifth bowler that isn't just Marsh/Marnus/Head sharing some overs someone is going to have to make way for Webster.

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            • GVGjr
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 43988

              #81
              Re: First Test - Australia v India in Perth 22-26 November 2024

              Originally posted by Axe Man
              I'm sure you already know the answer - because Green isn't playing and Marsh can't sustain any significant bowling loads. As the article says Marsh will likely be ok for Adelaide but he isn't likely to be able to keep bowling anything more than a few overs an innings over a 5 test series. If they want a genuine fifth bowler that isn't just Marsh/Marnus/Head sharing some overs someone is going to have to make way for Webster.
              Isn't that the point Stevo is making? If Webster is to come in is at the expense of Marsh or is it someone else?
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              • Axe Man
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2008
                • 10925

                #82
                Re: First Test - Australia v India in Perth 22-26 November 2024

                Originally posted by GVGjr
                Isn't that the point Stevo is making? If Webster is to come in is at the expense of Marsh or is it someone else?
                If Webster is to come in to take up Marsh's bowling duties it can be for any batsman really. Obviously it would need to account for form and the balance of the top 6 as a whole.

                My only point was that Marsh is in the team as a batsman that may roll the arm over occasionally but is now being asking to be an all rounder due to Green's injury. I don't think he needs to learn how to make it purely on his batting because he has already made the side purely on his batting.

                His body is unlikely to be able to sustain the load so it is a smart move by the selectors to bring Webster in as cover.

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                • Stevo
                  WOOF Member
                  • May 2008
                  • 1010

                  #83
                  Re: First Test - Australia v India in Perth 22-26 November 2024

                  Originally posted by Axe Man
                  I'm sure you already know the answer - because Green isn't playing and Marsh can't sustain any significant bowling loads. As the article says Marsh will likely be ok for Adelaide but he isn't likely to be able to keep bowling anything more than a few overs an innings over a 5 test series. If they want a genuine fifth bowler that isn't just Marsh/Marnus/Head sharing some overs someone is going to have to make way for Webster.
                  So if Webster is replacing Green in a bowling sense surely, we drop Marnus and slide Marsh, Head and Smith one spot earlier in the order? Marsh is batting a lot better than Marnus

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                  • Axe Man
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 10925

                    #84
                    Re: First Test - Australia v India in Perth 22-26 November 2024

                    Originally posted by Stevo
                    So if Webster is replacing Green in a bowling sense surely, we drop Marnus and slide Marsh, Head and Smith one spot earlier in the order? Marsh is batting a lot better than Marnus
                    I suspect we will go unchanged in Adelaide but if Marnus fails again then that's what I would do. Although Head, Marsh and Webster you could probably bat in any order at 4,5,6. In fact given Carey's form he could probably also bat higher than 7.

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                    • Pleather Sole
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                      • Jan 2024
                      • 231

                      #85
                      Re: First Test - Australia v India in Perth 22-26 November 2024

                      Originally posted by Axe Man
                      I suspect we will go unchanged in Adelaide but if Marnus fails again then that's what I would do. Although Head, Marsh and Webster you could probably bat in any order at 4,5,6. In fact given Carey's form he could probably also bat higher than 7.
                      Agreed. I think he'll play Adelaide. The difference in a day/night pink ball test is the ideal scenario for Labuschagne to reset his form. (Same for Smudge). If he doesn't then hopefully he gets a much needed mental break for a test or two. Would love to see more youngsters brought in, they've left it too long, again. Webster carrying the drinks at Adelaide is nice transition. Personally I would've dropped Marnus last series, and Warner a year earlier.
                      One injury and the whole top order could be rearranged.

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 43988

                        #86
                        Re: First Test - Australia v India in Perth 22-26 November 2024

                        Originally posted by Axe Man
                        I suspect we will go unchanged in Adelaide but if Marnus fails again then that's what I would do. Although Head, Marsh and Webster you could probably bat in any order at 4,5,6. In fact given Carey's form he could probably also bat higher than 7.
                        It's very doubtful we will abandon our planning after one loss even if it was a comprehensive one..
                        I wonder about if Webster is the right man anyway but there is no denying he's been in solid form with the bat and ball.
                        He's traditionally bats at 6 for Tassie and most of our number 6's in the past have traditionally batted higher in the order before the come into the test side. It's a minor concern but I'd like to see him bat at 4 or 5 for Tassie to better prepare him.
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                        • GVGjr
                          Moderator
                          • Nov 2006
                          • 43988

                          #87
                          Re: First Test - Australia v India in Perth 22-26 November 2024

                          Just as a side note, if you get a chance do a search on Glenn Phillips from NZ catch against England. It was a beauty.
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                          • whythelongface
                            Coaching Staff
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 4298

                            #88
                            Re: First Test - Australia v India in Perth 22-26 November 2024

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            Just as a side note, if you get a chance do a search on Glenn Phillips from NZ catch against England. It was a beauty.
                            Good test. NZ dropped Brooks on 18 (Phillips) and a couple more times. Goes on to make 171.

                            On another side note. Tim Southee’s last series. Great player for the Black Caps. Really enjoyed watching him bowl. A fine exponent of swing bowling.

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                            • mighty_west
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 3389

                              #89
                              Re: First Test - Australia v India in Perth 22-26 November 2024

                              Originally posted by GVGjr
                              Just as a side note, if you get a chance do a search on Glenn Phillips from NZ catch against England. It was a beauty.
                              Very similar to Derek Randall all those years ago, a absolute blinder!

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                              • mighty_west
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 3389

                                #90
                                Re: First Test - Australia v India in Perth 22-26 November 2024

                                Originally posted by whythelongface
                                Good test. NZ dropped Brooks on 18 (Phillips) and a couple more times. Goes on to make 171.

                                On another side note. Tim Southee’s last series. Great player for the Black Caps. Really enjoyed watching him bowl. A fine exponent of swing bowling.
                                Also Roots 150th, makes a duck first innings and has to field close in with helmet on (poor bugger), think it was 5 or 6 dropped catches from Brooks and some weren't that hard, the keeper dropping him down the leg side was bad, just popped straight out of the gloves.

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