Ricky Ponting

[Mantis]

Re: Ricky Ponting

Another sign of Ricky's great footwork early on.

[LostDoggy]

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Well to keep it simple you are wrong. No one even mentions Tait in the media anymore. I simply think he is good enough to be mentioned. He had 1 poor Test match but his others were better than mediocre..

3 test and 5 wickets at 60 sugest otherwise. Til he starts performing at Shield level and is fully fit, why would the media worry about him?

I don't expect players to change the result of a series in their first 10 tests.

Then why you saying the batsman can be excused? We knew when McGarth and Warne retired our bowling line would take a while to recover, we didn't know our batsman would struggle. By all reports the Sydney pitch is flat as a tack, 400 is just a pass.

BTW Lee has got the fantastic figures of what in this series? I don't think it's a stretch to say others could offer more. 1/249 isn't what I'd call mediocre. It's ****ing terrible.

I never said Lee was good nor have I said no one could do better than Lee. Tait might have done better but thats a big if.

[LostDoggy]

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Why? Theres no salary cap, there's no list numbers, there's no proper defined season that the players work towards which culminates in a champion team at the end of it. Test cricket is a nebulus beast.

Cos I'd prefer we do the hard yards now and have a good side for 10 year than have the same problem every 2 years.

[Topdog]

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Then why you saying the batsman can be excused?

Show me where I have said that our batsmen can be excused? Yet again you make up a statement to make yourself feel good.

I gather you are disappointed in Bollinger being selected as he is 27 and thus can't be considered a 10 year player.

[MrMahatma]

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Then why you saying the batsman can be excused? We knew when McGarth and Warne retired our bowling line would take a while to recover, we didn't know our batsman would struggle. By all reports the Sydney pitch is flat as a tack, 400 is just a pass.

To be fair, we lost some decent batsmen - Langer, Martyn, Gilchrist. The unfortunate thing was that when we were at our greatest strength, there was actually quite a lot of depth in batting floating around in the Sheild - and everyone assumed that would just continue, which it hasn't.

One thing this whole 'rebuild' has shown me, and hopefully the Australian public - Test Cricket isn't easy. And guys like Martyn and Langer, who never got the plaudits that Warne & McGrath got, were very good cricketers in a very difficult game.

It also shows that McGrath and Warne were possibly even greater than I thought!

[LostDoggy]

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Show me where I have said that our batsmen can be excused? Yet again you make up a statement to make yourself feel good.

Pretty much says it here.

Australia are still regularly scoring 350-400 runs which is enough to win Test matches. It's just that our bowling stocks are pretty poor at the moment.

Is it just our bowling stocks that are pretty poor?

I gather you are disappointed in Bollinger being selected as he is 27 and thus can't be considered a 10 year player.

You bag me for so called twisting your words then you invent your own.

[Topdog]

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Pretty much says it here.

Is it just our bowling stocks that are pretty poor?


You bag me for so called twisting your words then you invent your own.

How does it say it?

You said

Then why you saying the batsman can be excused?

I said AUSTRALIA are scoring 350-400 runs every innings which is enough to be winning Test matches and I will stand by that statement. Whether our top 4 are getting the runs and doing an acceptable job of it is another story.

I didn't invent any words Ernie. I asked a question whilst forgetting to put a ? on it.

[LostDoggy]

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Again that where you are wrong. I've already said 350-400 isn't enough in this day and age of flat pitches.

[Topdog]

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Again that where you are wrong. I've already said 350-400 isn't enough in this day and age of flat pitches.

South Africa seem to be winning with scores in that range.

[LostDoggy]

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South Africa seem to be winning with scores in that range.

Yes you are right again
459 in the last test and chased 414 in the first test when our batsman couldn't bat them out of the game and only made 319.

[Twodogs]

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Cos I'd prefer we do the hard yards now and have a good side for 10 year than have the same problem every 2 years.

Why? The point is we dont have to do any hard yards. Players are available to play anytime we want to pick them. It's not like we have a list of a certain number and are need to devote part of that list number to developing players.

[ledge]

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I believe we have the players in sheild cricket to stay a very good side, i think the selectors have no idea and should be sacked, thats how i see it.
They dont pick on form, or pitch or team balance, they pick on mateship and past performances.

[Topdog]

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Yes you are right again
459 in the last test and chased 414 in the first test when our batsman couldn't bat them out of the game and only made 319.

So the extra 14 runs is where it is at. If you get 700-800 runs a match you shouldn't be losing that often. That Perth pitch was an odd one. The Melbourne one was just terrible bowling for a session.

[LostDoggy]

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So the extra 14 runs is where it is at.

Yes 14 extra runs with only 4 out

[LostDoggy]

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Why? The point is we dont have to do any hard yards. Players are available to play anytime we want to pick them. It's not like we have a list of a certain number and are need to devote part of that list number to developing players.

Yes losing 2-0 away and 2-0 at home isn't doing the hardyards