Australia vs England - First Test

[mighty_west]

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Extremely disappointing end to a test we completely dominated.

Credit to Hauritz though, leading wicket taker and looked quite dangerous especially early on in the final day, a few close calls against Collingwood.

I thought Pontings captaincy was a little disappointing at times, he bowled North far too long for my liking, he was throwing pies, he was bowling like a non bowler being thrown the ball in desperation, Katich had to be given more of a go.

Johnson was all over the shop with the final new ball, where was Hilf? Hauritz was also kept on far to long, as well as he was bowling earlier on in the day, he was being picked off at will later on.

[ledge]

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What a waste of 4 centuries, the next test it might be the English batsman who fire, i cant see blokes like Strauss and Pietersen being stopped for too long, this could be a major opportunity the Australians didnt take.
Pontings batting is brilliant his captaincy isnt.

[LostDoggy]

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I thought Pontings captaincy was a little disappointing at times, he bowled North far too long for my liking, he was throwing pies, he was bowling like a non bowler being thrown the ball in desperation, Katich had to be given more of a go.

Johnson was all over the shop with the final new ball, where was Hilf? Hauritz was also kept on far to long, as well as he was bowling earlier on in the day, he was being picked off at will later on.

I was going to question Ponting's captaincy but don't believe bowling North was the issue. He was underbowled in the first innings.

You are right about Johnson, he is our #1 bowler and couldn't hit the pitch.

[LostDoggy]

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What a waste of 4 centuries, the next test it might be the English batsman who fire, i cant see blokes like Strauss and Pietersen being stopped for too long, this could be a major opportunity the Australians didnt take.

The probability of a player getting a century in the next innings doesn't change since they are all independent events.

[mighty_west]

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I was going to question Ponting's captaincy but don't believe bowling North was the issue. He was underbowled in the first innings.

You are right about Johnson, he is our #1 bowler and couldn't hit the pitch.

Mitch just didn't look dangerous enough did he? He ended up with decent figures, but thats mainly due to the Poms just shutting up shop imo.

I didn't mind us bowling North, he has bowled well at time for W.A, but from his first few overs, he just didn't look like doing any damage, he was more or less just roling the arm over, i just think Katich is under bowled by Ponting, he could have caused a few headaches.

Hilf really suprised me in the first innings, and was really the pick of the fast bowlers, perhaps could have bowled more on the final day.

[The Coon Dog]

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Ponting puzzled me a bit when he was critical of the Poms sending out the 12th man & physio to waste a bit of time. Tell me a country that wouldn't have done the same?

I laughed when he said we'll play the game in the right spirit. Does that include berating an umpire who gives a decision not out which the replays clearly confirmed Collingwood's pads were the only thing the ball hit.

[mighty_west]

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Ponting puzzled me a bit when he was critical of the Poms sending out the 12th man & physio to waste a bit of time. Tell me a country that wouldn't have done the same?

I laughed when he said we'll play the game in the right spirit. Does that include berating an umpire who gives a decision not out which the replays clearly confirmed Collingwood's pads were the only thing the ball hit.

I would have thought that both teams smashed this "so called" right spirit attitude with both Kev ilovemyself & Mitch almost having blows whilst warming up before play.

I prefer the old style cricket anyway, nothing wrong with on field banter.

[Happy Days]

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Ponting puzzled me a bit when he was critical of the Poms sending out the 12th man & physio to waste a bit of time. Tell me a country that wouldn't have done the same?

Still doesn't make it ethical.

[The Coon Dog]

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Still doesn't make it ethical.

I agree, but even when I played cricket, it was expected that batting gloves got changed, a drink was needed, shoe laces had to be re tied, a pad needed adjusting.

Not ethical, but been going on since WG Grace was a lad.

[mighty_west]

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I agree, but even when I played cricket, it was expected that batting gloves got changed, a drink was needed, shoe laces had to be re tied, a pad needed adjusting.

Not ethical, but been going on since WG Grace was a lad.

Indeed, i used to open the batting, and to come in with 20 minutes left for the day, with fading light, you did things in slow motion just to eat up some time, you may have copped a few around the throat, but that usually hardened you up in the long run..

The sledging you copped for doing so, was grouse, you knew you were getting under their skin and mentally winning the battle.

[dog town]

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While I think it is a rule that is open to exploitation I would be horrified if Australia had done what England did with the physio and the 12th man. Not sure why I feel so strongly about it but it just did not sit well with me.

[GVGjr]

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I think we learned a few things about the side during this test. Hauritz is a better bowler than his reputation, Johnson is down on form with his bowling and North looks a good prospect at number 6. Hilfy bowled better than expected as well.

Good teams however, win games like that and our bowling lacked a bit of polish. We need Johnson to stop scrambling the seam in the early spells and get the break throughs.

[Mantis]

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I think we learned a few things about the side during this test. Hauritz is a better bowler than his reputation, Johnson is down on form with his bowling and North looks a good prospect at number 6. Hilfy bowled better than expected as well.

Good teams however, win games like that and our bowling lacked a bit of polish. We need Johnson to stop scrambling the seam in the early spells and get the break throughs.

On an extremely helpful deck.

I think we all have our doubts on his ability on a flat track.

[GVGjr]

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On an extremely helpful deck.

I think we all have our doubts on his ability on a flat track.

He bowled a lot better than the other two spinners and helpful track or not he lifted his game a bit.

[Remi Moses]

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even though they got away with a draw England should never have been in that position to begin with. Poor techniques on a very flat pitch. pontings captaincy is average to say the least,why didn't he just back his paceman to blast them out ?Great batsmen yes not a great captain.Just wondering where Peter Roebucks article lambasting England's stalling tactics? Guess when it isn't the Aussies then it's okay then isn't it. Got no problem with the 12th man bringing out a change of gloves but every 2 minutes is a tad rich. The physio coming out for no reason,well what a disgrace!