Australia vs Pakistan

[ledge]

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The worst thing Ponting has done today is that attempted pull-flick-thing. The decision to bat was fine - unfortunately, his batting line up go to water at the first sign of movement off the deck.

IF we know that, another reason to not bat on this wicket, he had the choice.

[LostDoggy]

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The referral system has saved Clarke, could have been 4/17 if not for the successful challenge.

When you factor in the dropped chance and very close LBW, it could have actually been even worse start for Australia.

The referral system saved the ump not Clarke. It was a terrible decision for what was really a half hearted appeal by Pakistan.

The referral system failed the Pakis for the North LBW, not sure how they can say it was going to bounce over.

[LostDoggy]

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Not enough said so far on Ponting's terrible decision to bat on a green top.

[comrade]

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Not enough said so far on Ponting's terrible decision to bat on a green top.

BS.

How many dismissals have been due to the wicket causing havoc?

[LostDoggy]

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BS.

How many dismissals have been due to the wicket causing havoc?

Yes BS, all 7 wickets so far because its just poor batting and nothing to do with the pitch being a bit green. Its not like Ponting has any history choosing badly after winning the toss.

[comrade]

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Yes BS, all 7 wickets so far because its just poor batting and nothing to do with the pitch being a bit green. Its not like Ponting has any history choosing badly after winning the toss.

Which wickets were due to the pitch?

[LostDoggy]

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Which wickets were due to the pitch?

And which one were due to poor batting?

You look at the conditions and its pretty obvious its better to bowl than bat.

[ledge]

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Comrade you said youself Australia fall apart on the first sign of movement and they did.

[ledge]

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To me Ponting is only just behind Watson in the I love me stakes.

[comrade]

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And which one were due to poor batting?

You look at the conditions and its pretty obvious its better to bowl than bat.

Hughes, Ponting, Hussey, North, Haddin and Clarke (to a lesser extent, however, his footwork was all over the place) were all out due to poor shot making, rather than being done in by the wicket.

I'm not a massive wrap for Ponting, so I'm not an apologist. No doubt it's hard work out there, but the wicket isn't so bad that a decent Test top order should be 7 down for 67 in the first session. Our batsmen just have no balls.

[hujsh]

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To me Ponting is only just behind Watson in the I love me stakes.

I can't see the mental link you've made from "We'll have a bat because that's just what you do and we don't wan't a mistake like the 2nd test of the 05 Ashes" and "I love me"

Suer it was a crap shot and something Ponting has to work on but that doesn't indicate arrogance to me.

[ledge]

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Nicks and getting bowled were due to ball movement, as said by the commentators, a bit of swing and movement off the seam.
Fact is Ponting chose to bat on a green wicket, no excuse.

[comrade]

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Nicks and getting bowled were due to ball movement, as said by the commentators, a bit of swing and movement off the seam.
Fact is Ponting chose to bat on a green wicket, no excuse.

Which knick in particular? Watson was beaten by a beauty, so I didn't mention him in my post above. North wafted at a ball way outside off that should have been left. It was poor shot making, nothing less.

[LostDoggy]

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Hughes, Ponting, Hussey, North, Haddin and Clarke (to a lesser extent, however, his footwork was all over the place) were all out due to poor shot making, rather than being done in by the wicket.

Only because you are looking at it from an Aussie batsmans point of view.
From the first ball of the day you could tell its was betting to bowl than bat. I'd say the dismissal were more due to the pressure built from the conditions and the Paki bowling than poor batting.

I know its hindsight but you can't say batting was a good decision.

I missed the start but honestly thought Australia lost the toss after hearing pre game how wet its been in Sydney, what looks like overcast weather now and the delayed start.

[ledge]

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I can't see the mental link you've made from "We'll have a bat because that's just what you do and we don't wan't a mistake like the 2nd test of the 05 Ashes" and "I love me"

Suer it was a crap shot and something Ponting has to work on but that doesn't indicate arrogance to me.

Batting on this wicket is the link between Ponting and i love me, as he showed his arrogance in India with not taking a spinner, losing the ashes the first time by not having a 3rd man, playing his mates when they shouldnt be there, this bloke has the arrogance that previous captains didnt have and were always wary of any opposition.

The shot, yes it was a crap shot shown by a bloke who thinks he is too good(arrogant)
Ponting doesnt work on it he just keeps doing it.