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  • Sedat
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2007
    • 11211

    Originally posted by Axe Man
    Apparently doesn't mind Ballarat that much if there's some $$$ in it for him...
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    Have to admire his shamelessness. I'm guessing the drinks catering will be done by Barry's.
    "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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    • comrade
      Hall of Fame
      • Jun 2008
      • 18004

      Why am I getting visions of Tonya Harding?
      Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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      • ledge
        Hall of Fame
        • Dec 2007
        • 14300

        What was the crowd at Geelong against a very good side compared to our game against the second lowest team in the league ?
        They hyped it up bigtime with free T shirts and Dangers 350th .
        Bring back the biff

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        • Mofra
          Hall of Fame
          • Dec 2006
          • 14915

          Dahlhaus with a lazy 40 touches at local level on the weekend.
          Chief is dominating at club level too.
          Sam Darley & Sam Reid carving it up for their respective clubs as well.
          Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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          • The Adelaide Connection
            Coaching Staff
            • Jan 2009
            • 2774

            Low key most hilarious development in the last few days:

            You may have caught that the Bombers are reviewing the causation of their super woeful injury list. This is compounded by case studies of players not able to get themselves right at Tullamarine, but having their woes sorted as soon as they move on (with Daniher the big poster child for that).

            Anyways, they are looking at spending millions resurfacing grounds and whatnot and looking into everything from preseason to 5 day break preparations.

            BUT:

            My absolute favourite part about all of this is an Ex-AFLW player came out on Twitter and flagged the surface in the indoors "Hangar". She claims players would regularly pull up with sore quads etc after sessions in there.

            Hahahahaaha- the famous Cooney spongey floor. Imagine if that was their undoing? Gold.

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            • Mofra
              Hall of Fame
              • Dec 2006
              • 14915

              We laugh, but in the modern era of "supershoes" there's a large amount of new study material showing that they are contributing significantly to injury rates.

              Material matters!

              I'm not surprised a surface that doesn't mirror game day conditions could be a factor in high injury rates. Smaller supporting muscles need stimulation to work properly.

              I do regularly go right down these exercise rabbit holes and have upped my running recently as well, keeping a low drop, low tech shoe in my rotation for this very reason.
              Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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              • The Adelaide Connection
                Coaching Staff
                • Jan 2009
                • 2774

                Originally posted by Mofra
                We laugh, but in the modern era of "supershoes" there's a large amount of new study material showing that they are contributing significantly to injury rates.

                Material matters!

                I'm not surprised a surface that doesn't mirror game day conditions could be a factor in high injury rates. Smaller supporting muscles need stimulation to work properly.

                I do regularly go right down these exercise rabbit holes and have upped my running recently as well, keeping a low drop, low tech shoe in my rotation for this very reason.
                Oh totally agree- just thought it was hilarious that the think that Cooney banged on about could have been/could be the smoking gun.

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                • azabob
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 15290

                  Man, I still can’t believe we let jeemak trade Josh Dunkley. He’s the one who hurts the most.
                  More of an In Bruges guy?

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                  • Axe Man
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 11118

                    Lin Jong: The fallout of my meeting with Collingwood, Bevo’s reaction and the balance of footy loyalty

                    Lin Jong was flattered that the Pies were keen enough for his services to have a mid-season catch-up in 2016. What followed was a whirlwind he never saw coming after the meeting went public.

                    Initially I was flattered that another club was interested enough in me to set up a mid-season meeting.

                    But my stomach began to churn as I prepared to enter a back door at Collingwood’s Olympic Park headquarters under the cover of darkness.

                    My gut was telling me: ‘This doesn’t feel right’.

                    The midweek meeting with the Magpies was just days before I was set to pull on a Western Bulldogs jumper for a round 15 game against Sydney in 2016.

                    I had just turned 22 years old and I was beginning to show some promise with my AFL career, after landing at Whitten Oval in the 2011 rookie draft.

                    The Bulldogs had a two-year contract extension on the table and I loved the place, but my manager Nick Gieshen suggested the meeting with Collingwood as we weighed up my future.

                    After all, the Pies had told me that they were going to pick me in that 2011 rookie draft – before the Bulldogs got in first.

                    ‘Giesh’ and I met with Collingwood coach Nathan Buckley, list manager Derek Hine and football boss Geoff Walsh that night.

                    The conversation was pretty casual.

                    Star players of the competition are often told in such meetings, ‘This is where we see you fitting into our best-22’.

                    But I wasn’t a star — I was still just a kid establishing myself.

                    The five of us chatted for about 45 minutes, before I was asked if I wanted to take a quick tour of the club’s impressive facilities.

                    I’d already seen the facilities before I got drafted five years earlier, but I didn’t want to be rude and decline the offer.

                    That moment kicked off a whirlwind few days which I wasn’t quite prepared for.

                    BUSTED BULLDOG

                    You could see why Collingwood wanted to show off its facilities.

                    They were chalk and cheese to what we had at Whitten Oval at the time.

                    At the Dogs, we had to drive 10 minutes to Victoria University just to use a pool.

                    I had relaxed after our casual sit-down meeting, but as we walked through Collingwood’s weights room my heartrate spiked again.

                    Four people — who I can only assume were VFL players — were in there for a night-time workout.

                    In my head I thought, ‘That’s not good’.”

                    I tried to tell myself, ‘Maybe they don’t know who I am’, because I wasn’t exactly a big player.

                    I only had 29 AFL games under my belt at that stage.

                    I remember Giesh saying to me that night something along the lines of, ‘It’s not ideal there was some guys there but hopefully nothing comes of it’.

                    But one of those players in the gym must have recognised me, because a week later my mid-season tour at Collingwood suddenly became big news.

                    BEVO’S BITE

                    I was at Whitten Oval the following week when Giesh called through.

                    "Mate, I’m so sorry about this but you know how we went to Collingwood, it’s going to be in the papers.”

                    I was a bit bemused that anyone would care, but as that news sunk in I began to be filled with anxiety.

                    I hadn’t told anyone — outside of my partner at the time — about the meeting with Collingwood ahead of time.

                    After that call from Giesh, I confided in teammate Jack Macrae but otherwise kept this big secret to myself for the rest of the day.

                    That night, I was out at dinner with a few other teammates — including Fletcher Roberts and Joel Hamling — when my phone lit up.

                    My coach, Luke Beveridge, was calling.

                    I answered the call but didn’t do much talking myself.

                    Bevo was clearly quite emotional, having just read the Herald Sun story which had broken online that evening about my meeting with the Magpies.

                    His message was around trust:

                    ‘How can I trust you and how can the players trust you?”

                    ​We’d built some momentum in the season at that point and Bevo’s view was that this could be a big distraction.

                    In my head, I’m immediately thinking, ‘I’ve screwed up, my career’s done and the Bulldogs will probably pull the contract offer off the table now’.

                    Thankfully, my fears were allayed moments later when I got a call from list boss Jason McCartney, who said the situation was ‘fine’ and the Bulldogs themselves meet with contracted players from other clubs in-season.

                    Jason spoke to Bevo and before long my coach had called me back to apologise for being a little harsh in his first phone call.

                    THE REACTION

                    The back page of the Herald Sun the next day had a big headline of ‘PIE NIGHT’ and my photo on it.

                    That was Wednesday, which was a day off.

                    Even though my coach had cooled down, I wasn’t sure how my teammates would react when I went back into the club on Thursday.

                    My family and some of my friends — who I’d all left in the dark about the Collingwood meeting — certainly hadn’t taken the news too well.

                    But luckily, I had a good captain in Bob Murphy, who immediately lightened the mood during our team meeting the next morning.

                    ​Bob had organised one of the staff in the office to Photoshop me with my arm sleeve tattoos, a Collingwood jumper and missing teeth.

                    It got a laugh from the boys, who got stuck into me with some banter but didn’t seem to hold any grudges.

                    It was the rival fans who I copped the most stick from.

                    When I lined up against Richmond a few days later, I copped it over the fence about my disloyalty during the warm-up.

                    I still get asked about the situation to this day, but after that first week everyone largely moved on.

                    LEARNING LESSONS

                    What most people don’t know is that I also had an in-person meeting with Gold Coast, just weeks after the Collingwood blow-up.

                    There was no way I was flying north to visit Suns headquarters this time, though.

                    Myself and Giesh met with then Suns coach Rodney Eade, list manager Scott Clayton and football boss Marcus Ashcroft at a private home in Melbourne’s eastern suburbs.

                    I wasn’t scared off by the experience with Collingwood, but this meeting was kept very discreet.

                    The Suns ended up offering me a three-year deal with better money and I genuinely weighed it up in the months that followed.

                    I loved the Bulldogs, but you have to think about your future and make hay while the sun shines, as they say.

                    However, the Bulldogs ended up bumping up the financial component of their two-year offer a little and I chose to stay, signing on post-season after playing in Footscray’s VFL premiership.

                    WHAT’S CHANGED?

                    Nine years on, it seems the footy landscape hasn’t changed much since my saga.

                    I can’t compare myself to West Coast captain Oscar Allen, but our situations share some similarities after he was busted meeting with Hawthorn coach Sam Mitchell earlier this year as he explored his free agency options.

                    Watching Allen’s press conference after that news broke, I saw the human side of things and it was clear that he was hurting.

                    His situation was probably mine on steroids, given the scrutiny on players in a two-team Perth and the fact he is skipper at the Eagles.

                    The AFL is a special game, partly because of the loyalty shown by fans and many players.

                    It still means something to be a one-club player, which isn’t the case in many overseas sports where it is normal for players to be meeting with other clubs in-season and moving around.

                    I do like the culture of loyalty that is embedded in our sport, but there needs to be some balance.

                    I haven’t played AFL since 2021 — at which point my football career had spanned more than a third of my life and felt like everything.

                    Being removed from the game has given me perspective: AFL careers are short, and players ultimately need to look after themselves without being judged or criticised for it.

                    The reality is, clubs don’t always show the same level of loyalty to players in return.

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66573

                      Thanks for posting Axeman. Jong was very unlucky with injuries which stuffed up his career.

                      I wonder which other of our players are currently going through the same thing as Jong.
                      FFC: Established 1883

                      Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                      • Mofra
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 14915

                        He still seems pretty close to Macrae, Caleb & Fletch. Jongy always seemed like a really good guy.
                        Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                        • josie
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Oct 2012
                          • 4458

                          Beautiful article - thanks Aza. I loved Jongy as a player. Perhaps too brave for his own good. His Mum is a delightful person too.

                          If I could turn back time & miraculously make injuries disappear, it would be Jong with shoulder intact, instead of Dunkley playing in our glorious 2016 GF.
                          Josie :)

                          Our day will come
                          And we'll have everything.
                          We'll share the joy
                          Just like '54 again.

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                          • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8939

                            As others have said, thanks Aza for posting this interview.
                            Always had an affinity in our household for Lin as my wife is from Taiwan.

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                            • Axe Man
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 11118

                              Originally posted by josie
                              Beautiful article - thanks Aza. I loved Jongy as a player. Perhaps too brave for his own good. His Mum is a delightful person too.

                              If I could turn back time & miraculously make injuries disappear, it would be Jong with shoulder intact, instead of Dunkley playing in our glorious 2016 GF.
                              Originally posted by Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                              As others have said, thanks Aza for posting this interview.
                              Always had an affinity in our household for Lin as my wife is from Taiwan.
                              Damn azabob always taking the credit.

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                              • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 8939

                                Originally posted by Axe Man



                                Damn azabob always taking the credit.
                                So Sorry Axeman. Very lazy on my behalf,

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