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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

    Originally posted by Ghost Dog
    Historically we have not really been a big part of three way trades have we?
    I'd be disappointed to lose any youngsters before we see what they are really made of.
    Don't think so. The Powell, Monty, Cameron, Eagleton trade comes to mind though.
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • Ghost Dog
      WOOF Member
      • May 2010
      • 9404

      Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

      Originally posted by F'scary
      I am presuming it was because of his height and weight, at the time there was still the mania for "big bodied mids". And I wouldn't be giving him up cheaply, he got nearly a goal a game in 2015 (0.8 goals/game) and I'm sure he started as sub or was subbed at least once. One of his virtues is that he is a good mark for his size and has the aptitude for contested marking (as opposed to, say, Macrae who always positions himself for the spill from the contest). Honeychurch is tradeable only because of the competition in our club for the roles he plays.
      Skills pay the bills as they say. If he can use the ball as well as they say, I don't want us to let him go. It was heart breaking to watch us miss those easy goals in the prelim. Just the style of the body, but when you look at him, as I said like Crossy, he just looks like he has a lot of footy in him.
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      • F'scary
        WOOF Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 4089

        Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

        Originally posted by Ghost Dog
        Skills pay the bills as they say. If he can use the ball as well as they say, I don't want us to let him go. It was heart breaking to watch us miss those easy goals in the prelim. Just the style of the body, but when you look at him, as I said like Crossy, he just looks like he has a lot of footy in him.
        Skills-wise, he is ok, not brilliant. His big pluses are that he works very hard, is courageous, reads the play well, good mark for his size and can sniff a goal opportunity.
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        • Ghost Dog
          WOOF Member
          • May 2010
          • 9404

          Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

          Originally posted by F'scary
          Skills-wise, he is ok, not brilliant. His big pluses are that he works very hard, is courageous, reads the play well, good mark for his size and can sniff a goal opportunity.
          Sounds a bit like Crossy! It's obvious the club wants a ruck and to shore up our defence. I can't see us getting a trade that would fill these needs with Mitch.
          Ryan Crowley is not doing anything now. He was a defensive midfielder early on. We delisted Goodes and in a young side, I can see a space for a hard nosed defender who can protect our boys and take the heat off a few. He would relish that role I think. Idea?
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          • soupman
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Nov 2007
            • 5131

            Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

            Originally posted by Ghost Dog
            Sounds a bit like Crossy! It's obvious the club wants a ruck and to shore up our defence. I can't see us getting a trade that would fill these needs with Mitch.
            Ryan Crowley is not doing anything now. He was a defensive midfielder early on. We delisted Goodes and in a young side, I can see a space for a hard nosed defender who can protect our boys and take the heat off a few. He would relish that role I think. Idea?
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            2013 Should have been AA according to google.
            No chance. Crowley only plays as a lock down player. Beveridge doesn't use lock down players anywhere.
            I should leave it alone but you're not right

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            • Ghost Dog
              WOOF Member
              • May 2010
              • 9404

              Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

              Originally posted by soupaman
              No chance. Crowley only plays as a lock down player. Beveridge doesn't use lock down players anywhere.
              Not sure of that line of thinking because Liam Picken was re-invented into a really useful player. If Crowley can still keep up, could be a useful signing for a year for bugger all. Would at least be as good as Brett in a defensive role, and add a bit of depth.
              The only knock I can see is if he can still keep up and play in defence. We don't need a tagger.
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              • F'scary
                WOOF Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 4089

                Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                Sounds a bit like Crossy! It's obvious the club wants a ruck and to shore up our defence. I can't see us getting a trade that would fill these needs with Mitch.
                Ryan Crowley is not doing anything now. He was a defensive midfielder early on. We delisted Goodes and in a young side, I can see a space for a hard nosed defender who can protect our boys and take the heat off a few. He would relish that role I think. Idea?
                Useless stats
                2012 BOF freo
                2013 Should have been AA according to google.
                GD, Honeychurch is a very different player to Cross. He's a little guy (176cm) whereas Cross at 187cm and around 86kg was what is nowdays being termed a big bodied midfielder. Honeychurch's best fit is as a small forward who takes a turn in the midfield. Having said that, he could also be a BP if trained into that role.
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                • F'scary
                  WOOF Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 4089

                  Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                  not sure if it has been discussed already - forgive if so - but could ex-cat Mitch Brown be an acquisition for a KPB role in 2016? He will be nominating for the national draft, I don't know the general level of interest in him among AFL clubs but he would have to be of interest to us given the Talia situation, the fact that Hamling and Roberts are still developing, that Roughead might be required to play some games in the ruck, FP or BP and that we don't have a CHF (for which Hamling or Roughead or Roberts could be candidates, perhaps). Interested in reading any thoughts on this suggestion.
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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 45026

                    Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                    Originally posted by F'scary
                    GD, Honeychurch is a very different player to Cross. He's a little guy (176cm) whereas Cross at 187cm and around 86kg was what is nowdays being termed a big bodied midfielder. Honeychurch's best fit is as a small forward who takes a turn in the midfield. Having said that, he could also be a BP if trained into that role.
                    The game is changing. Sides want big midfielders and 3 small forwards to lock the ball in once it hits the ground. Chaotic entries into the forward line have provided smaller players an opportunity to play in other positions than just the midfield.

                    I don't see HC as a defender but it's not a bad suggestion and something they could work on however, if he is to force his way into a regular senior player it needs to be as a small forward who makes the most of his opportunities, uses the ball well and someone who hunts down the opposition when it spills their way.

                    His kicking for goal concerns me.
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                    • F'scary
                      WOOF Member
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 4089

                      Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      The game is changing. Sides want big midfielders and 3 small forwards to lock the ball in once it hits the ground. Chaotic entries into the forward line have provided smaller players an opportunity to play in other positions than just the midfield.

                      I don't see HC as a defender but it's not a bad suggestion and something they could work on however, if he is to force his way into a regular senior player it needs to be as a small forward who makes the most of his opportunities, uses the ball well and someone who hunts down the opposition when it spills their way.

                      His kicking for goal concerns me.
                      Agree, unfortunately, his kicking for goal has been iffy: 10 goals, 11 behinds in 14 games since being drafted. Like quite a few others, he is best when he doesn't have a lot of time to think about it.
                      Officially on the Bus-wagon

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 45026

                        Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                        Report on AFL.com is that Freo aren't prepared to trade players to accommodate a move by McCartney. They are hoping that GWS take 22 and next years first round pick.
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                        • Ghost Dog
                          WOOF Member
                          • May 2010
                          • 9404

                          Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                          Originally posted by F'scary
                          GD, Honeychurch is a very different player to Cross. He's a little guy (176cm) whereas Cross at 187cm and around 86kg was what is nowdays being termed a big bodied midfielder. Honeychurch's best fit is as a small forward who takes a turn in the midfield. Having said that, he could also be a BP if trained into that role.
                          A mini-me Crossy then.
                          You don't develop courage by being happy in your relationships every day. You develop it by surviving difficult times and challenging adversity. ― Epicurus

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                          • bulldogtragic
                            The List Manager
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 34289

                            Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            Report on AFL.com is that Freo aren't prepared to trade players to accommodate a move by McCartney. They are hoping that GWS take 22 and next years first round pick.
                            GWS would be bent over in that scenario. At least with the Boyd deal they got an AFL captain and gun player, pick 6 and $600,000 or so in salary relief. 22 and 16-18 next year is a bad deal and I can't see them taking it. Clubs should be more willing to deal if trying to buy guns out of other clubs. St Kilda and Freo owe it to the players do deal frankly and quickly as we did.
                            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                            • F'scary
                              WOOF Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 4089

                              Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                              Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                              A mini-me Crossy then.
                              That he may be.
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                              • hujsh
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 11888

                                Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                                Originally posted by Ghost Dog
                                A mini-me Crossy then.
                                Thankfully he's faster than that.
                                [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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