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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

    Has anyone seen much of Tim O'Brien, the forward Hawthorn picked up with the swap of picks in which we picked up Hrovat? Cicely seems ahead of him and if Schoenmakers plays forward, then he might as well look for a new home before next year.
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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 45016

      Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
      Has anyone seen much of Tim O'Brien, the forward Hawthorn picked up with the swap of picks in which we picked up Hrovat? Cicely seems ahead of him and if Schoenmakers plays forward, then he might as well look for a new home before next year.
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      • Remi Moses
        WOOF Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 14785

        Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

        Wonder if we're looking at Astbury?
        Apparently lions have cooled, which would be injury history related you'd think.
        I think Freo would want a first rounder for Pierce, and to get McCarthy they're going to need to get one.
        Teams are really carrying on like a teenager first getting a credit card in giving up future first rounders .

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        • Remi Moses
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 14785

          Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
          Has anyone seen much of Tim O'Brien, the forward Hawthorn picked up with the swap of picks in which we picked up Hrovat? Cicely seems ahead of him and if Schoenmakers plays forward, then he might as well look for a new home before next year.
          We've got plenty of players similar.
          Interestingly that was the pick we gave them for Brian, and he hasn't really come on after a promising start.

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 45016

            Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

            Originally posted by GVGjr
            Report on AFL.com is that Freo aren't prepared to trade players to accommodate a move by McCartney. They are hoping that GWS take 22 and next years first round pick.
            Originally posted by Remi Moses
            I think Freo would want a first rounder for Pierce, and to get McCarthy they're going to need to get one.
            Teams are really carrying on like a teenager first getting a credit card in giving up future first rounders .
            As above, Freo have made it clear that they won't trade players to sweeten the offer to get McCartney. Things might change but that's their current position.
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            • jazzadogs
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Oct 2008
              • 5720

              Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

              Is Pearce worth pick 11? I would suggest that is overs, but he has shown plenty in a small sample size and is a better bet than the lottery of draft day.

              Talia and 11 for Pearce and a later pick? (i don't care if Talia doesn't want to go there, he'll go wherever we damn well send him!...just don't tell the AFLPA)

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 45016

                Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                Originally posted by jazzadogs
                Is Pearce worth pick 11? I would suggest that is overs, but he has shown plenty in a small sample size and is a better bet than the lottery of draft day.

                Talia and 11 for Pearce and a later pick? (i don't care if Talia doesn't want to go there, he'll go wherever we damn well send him!...just don't tell the AFLPA)
                No he is not worth pick 11, we would have been looking to get something back (pick 22) in that now very unlikely scenario.
                The thought behind it was that it would have given us a young KPD and that we would still have had some currency in the 2nd round. Remember we will probably only make 3 draft selections this year.

                Freo have made their position public and I can't see that changing. I think it's more likely we will stick with what we have.
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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 45016

                  Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                  This makes a bit of sense

                  From AFL.com

                  Two of the big fish of the exchange period could be tied into the same deal in a four-way trade.

                  The Age reports St Kilda and Port Adelaide have put forward an option for Gold Coast forward Charlie Dixon to be a part of the Jake Carlisle deal.

                  So far the Power have baulked at the Suns' demands for two first-round picks for Dixon, while the Saints have been unwilling to offer Essendon pick five in isolation in exchange for Carlisle.

                  The Bombers swiftly knocked back the Saints' offer last week of pick five and 63 for Carlisle and Essendon's two second-round selections.

                  But reports suggest both players could be involved in a mega-trade to deliver all parties a fair outcome.
                  In the deal, Port Adelaide would trade its pick 10 and likely a future first-round selection to St Kilda for pick 5. The Saints would hand over pick 10 for Carlisle, and Port would give pick No.5 to the Suns for Dixon.

                  Such a deal would give the Suns picks three and five, as well as No. 16 and 19, at November's NAB AFL Draft.
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                  • Bornadog
                    WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 67297

                    Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                    I wonder if Essendon would be happy with that deal. Is pick 10 on it's own better than 15 and 18?
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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34289

                      Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                      ^^

                      That knocks us out of a trade involvement. That leaves GCS and Hawthorn with 2 late first round picks. I wonder if we were interested in trading 11 to either club for two later first rounders?
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                      • Bulldog Joe
                        Premiership Moderator
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 5615

                        Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                        Originally posted by GVGjr
                        No he is not worth pick 11, we would have been looking to get something back (pick 22) in that now very unlikely scenario.
                        The thought behind it was that it would have given us a young KPD and that we would still have had some currency in the 2nd round. Remember we will probably only make 3 draft selections this year.

                        Freo have made their position public and I can't see that changing. I think it's more likely we will stick with what we have.
                        I could cope with pick 11 for Alex Pearce.
                        He has had 2 years in the system and shown he can play as a KPD, which is a real need for us.

                        He would grow and mature with our list and there is more certainty with him than this years pick 11.
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                        • jazzadogs
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 5720

                          Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          This makes a bit of sense

                          From AFL.com

                          Two of the big fish of the exchange period could be tied into the same deal in a four-way trade.

                          The Age reports St Kilda and Port Adelaide have put forward an option for Gold Coast forward Charlie Dixon to be a part of the Jake Carlisle deal.

                          So far the Power have baulked at the Suns' demands for two first-round picks for Dixon, while the Saints have been unwilling to offer Essendon pick five in isolation in exchange for Carlisle.

                          The Bombers swiftly knocked back the Saints' offer last week of pick five and 63 for Carlisle and Essendon's two second-round selections.

                          But reports suggest both players could be involved in a mega-trade to deliver all parties a fair outcome.
                          In the deal, Port Adelaide would trade its pick 10 and likely a future first-round selection to St Kilda for pick 5. The Saints would hand over pick 10 for Carlisle, and Port would give pick No.5 to the Suns for Dixon.

                          Such a deal would give the Suns picks three and five, as well as No. 16 and 19, at November's NAB AFL Draft.
                          Port must be getting something else back, otherwise they are still giving away two first round picks for Dixon??

                          Saints do well getting Carlisle and a future pick, particularly if Port bomb again!

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                          • G-Mo77
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 9895

                            Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            I wonder if Essendon would be happy with that deal. Is pick 10 on it's own better than 15 and 18?
                            Of course they will. They'll get their media guys to talk it up and how great they were at getting the best possible deal.

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                            • GVGjr
                              Moderator
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 45016

                              Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                              Bulldogs online have tweeted the following

                              RUMOR MILL:
                              Western Bulldogs have expressed interest again in Gold Coast Defender Steven May.

                              The 23 year old Key Defender has been on the Dogs radar the past couple of seasons and Bulldogs hope to land a deal for him in the last three days of trade period.

                              The Bulldogs have also expressed interested in Gold Coast's Pick 3



                              I'm not sure what the source is behind this but they do get some right.
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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34289

                                Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                                Originally posted by GVGjr
                                Bulldogs online have tweeted the following

                                RUMOR MILL:
                                Western Bulldogs have expressed interest again in Gold Coast Defender Steven May.

                                The 23 year old Key Defender has been on the Dogs radar the past couple of seasons and Bulldogs hope to land a deal for him in the last three days of trade period.

                                The Bulldogs have also expressed interested in Gold Coast's Pick 3



                                I'm not sure what the source is behind this but they do get some right.
                                What would GCS want in terms of player/s to get us to pick 3? Minson, Talia and HC plus pick 11.

                                I like May a lot, so that's a good target IMO.
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