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  • Missing Dog
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8501

    Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

    Originally posted by GVGjr
    There is a bit of talk on Twitter that we are in to Rioli.
    The Rioli article on afl.com mentions we were keen to meet with him.
    Not real keen to part with pick 20/21 for him.

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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 45043

      Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
      I will rephrase. Is he worth 21?
      I guess so. I don't have him on the radar but we probably do rate him highly
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      • Twodogs
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 27664

        Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

        He's worth the pick we are willing to spend on him. That's how it works.
        They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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        • The Doctor
          Coaching Staff
          • Jan 2007
          • 3704

          Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
          Would he get to 30?
          I wouldn't touch him before then.
          Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34289

            Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

            Originally posted by The Doctor
            I wouldn't touch him before then.
            Is that based on what he does with the ball, or what he doesn't do with the ball? I'm sure his surname alone gets favourable TV spots on channel 7.
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            • The Doctor
              Coaching Staff
              • Jan 2007
              • 3704

              Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
              Is that based on what he does with the ball, or what he doesn't do with the ball? I'm sure his surname alone gets favourable TV spots on channel 7.
              It's based on that at picks 20 & 21 there will be better players available. I don't buy into social media hype. I like him as a player and wouldn't object if we had a nibble at pick 30 but before then there will be better performed players.
              Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34289

                Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                Originally posted by The Doctor
                It's based on that at picks 20 & 21 there will be better players available. I don't buy into social media hype. I like him as a player and wouldn't object if we had a nibble at pick 30 but before then there will be better performed players.
                Thanks Doc, I'm rather sceptical about tweeners and Bruce causing clubs to think that there's a PR benefit because of his surname or pressure not to pass for other clubs. #delicious
                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                • The Bulldogs Bite
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 11350

                  Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                  Originally posted by The Doctor
                  It's based on that at picks 20 & 21 there will be better players available. I don't buy into social media hype. I like him as a player and wouldn't object if we had a nibble at pick 30 but before then there will be better performed players.
                  From the little I've seen I'd agree with this. Nice player at around that 30-35 value, but should be better performed players at 20/21 and ones that address our needs.
                  W00F!

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                  • soupman
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 5131

                    Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                    Originally posted by jazzadogs
                    What happens if we have used our 3 live picks (ie Grant stays, and we've drafted with 20,21,30) and then somebody bids on Dmac with pick 50? Can we match it in the rookie draft?
                    I believe we have to nominate a father son prior to the draft. If nobody bids we take him with our last pick, if someone bids we have to match. So if we intend on putting him on the main list and only want to use the three picks then we get him with pick 30. If we want him as a rookie we leave him unattached in the main draft, meaning anyone can pick him up without us having matching rights. However if he makes it through the ND and PSD then we can take him as a rookie without a fight.
                    I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                    • Mofra
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 15069

                      Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      I thought you had legit sources

                      Callum Twoomey has him at 19. Terry Wallace at 13 and I think GVGjr had him in the 20's.

                      I haven't seen any other sources.
                      Going by their drafting history they tend to outperform Twoomey.

                      Quayle's mock closer to the day will be telling - she knows f-all about ranking talent (according to a few people who know) but her sources about who likes who are impeccable.
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                      • The Bulldogs Bite
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 11350

                        Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                        Originally posted by Mofra
                        Going by their drafting history they tend to outperform Twoomey.

                        Quayle's mock closer to the day will be telling - she knows f-all about ranking talent (according to a few people who know) but her sources about who likes who are impeccable.
                        Whilst true, it helps that she doesn't release the bulk of her info until the day of the draft.
                        W00F!

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                        • jazzadogs
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 5725

                          Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                          Originally posted by soupaman
                          I believe we have to nominate a father son prior to the draft. If nobody bids we take him with our last pick, if someone bids we have to match. So if we intend on putting him on the main list and only want to use the three picks then we get him with pick 30. If we want him as a rookie we leave him unattached in the main draft, meaning anyone can pick him up without us having matching rights. However if he makes it through the ND and PSD then we can take him as a rookie without a fight.
                          Didn't the rules on this change this year, and bidding for father sons/academy will be live throughout the draft?

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                          • Bornadog
                            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 67333

                            Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                            Originally posted by jazzadogs
                            Didn't the rules on this change this year, and bidding for father sons/academy will be live throughout the draft?
                            New system here
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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              New system here
                              Thanks for posting that again for us BAD.

                              I actually think this is far too harsh on Academy players unless there are more than one expected to go in any given round. Why would a northern club invest in kids as young as 10 when even if that kid is bid Pick 1 in the draft, they only get a 600 point discount (ie about pick 31). They have to cough up 2400 points, which is between picks 2-3, to secure a player they've been developing for years. I get the angst over Heeney but I wonder whether this will see the Academies disappear, or at the very least receive less investment.

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                              • jazzadogs
                                Bulldog Team of the Century
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 5725

                                Re: Silly Season (post home and away season trade period) suggestions.

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                New system here
                                Thanks BAD. That doesn't actually answer the question though..." If the new system is operational bidding will take place live during the draft" but if not there will be a bidding meeting before the draft. Is the system operational?

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