Confirmed Trades, FS, FA, delistings etc for all AFL Clubs 2015

[Bornadog]

Re: Confirmed Trades, FS, FA, delistings etc for all AFL Clubs 2015

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The Bulldogs are rumored to have offered Matthew Leuenberger a 4 Year Deal in an attempt to lure the Brisbane big man to the Kennel.

The 26 Year old has had a stop-start career at the Brisbane Lions with form and injuries contributing to this.

The Former Pick 4 has obvious talent which was displayed in patches this Season, Between Rounds 13-17 he averaged 35.6 Hitouts.

He is a restricted player in which Lions can match the offer to keep him.

[LostDoggy]

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Pretty sure once Martin confirms with Lions, they'll be letting Leuenberger go. Both need to be #1 Ruck.

Pretty confident we'll get Leuenberger, who should be a good fit as long as he stays sound. Apparently he is an elite tap ruckman, doesn't just win taps but has great hands and places them to real advantage. Our clearance team with a quality tap ruckman and Libba added will be pretty hard to beat.

And as a FA, he'll be a freebie.

[F'scary]

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The issues with Leuenberger:

Injuries: averages 12 games per year over 9 seasons.

Doesn't take a lot of marks: 3.1 per game over 9 seasons.

Here is the comparison with Will Minson. I'm not sure there is enough there to tempt. He's younger but not as durable. It would really turn on judgements as to whether he is a better centre bounce and stoppage ruckman than Minson.

Player Statistics Comparison Matthew Leuenberger Name Will Minson Brisbane Lions Team Western Bulldogs Ruck Position Ruck 108 Career Games 189 East Perth Origin Norwood June 7, 1988 Date of Birth April 11, 1985 27yr 3mth Age 30yr 5mth 203cm Height 199cm 100kg Weight 106kg 2006 National Draft Last Drafted In 2002 National Draft Round 1, Pick #4 Last Draft Position Round 2, Pick #20 Brisbane Lions Last Drafted By Western Bulldogs Career Stats for Season Career 108 Games 189 5.7 Kicks Per Game 6.1 6.3 Handballs Per Game 5.2 12.0 Disposals Per Game 11.3 3.1 Marks Per Game 2.5 0.2 Goals Per Game 0.4 0.2 Behinds Per Game 0.3 2.2 Tackles Per Game 2.9 22.9 Hitouts Per Game 21.4 1.2 Frees For Per Game 0.9 1.2 Frees Against Per Game 1.7

[LostDoggy]

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Not sure how much you can take out of these stats. Pretty sure Kruezer and Leuey look very similar also (MK: 12 possessions, 3 marks, 18 h/o).

[Greystache]

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I don't get the excitement over Leuenberger. Even on the rare occasions he's fit he's only a battler. I don't see him as an improvement on Roughead as a ruckman.

[LostDoggy]

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He has had a lot of injury problems and he also needs to be #1 Ruck, they're his issues. He is a different class of Ruck to Roughy though. This year, Martin only missed 2 games, Leueys only 2 games as 1st Ruck:

- R14 Freo, rucked against Sandilands, got 51 hit outs, 11 poss, laid 9 tackles and kicked 2 goals.
- R15 Syd, rucked against Pike/Tippett, got 42 hit outs, 7 poss, laid 4 tackles.

[F'scary]

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Not sure how much you can take out of these stats. Pretty sure Kruezer and Leuey look very similar also (MK: 12 possessions, 3 marks, 18 h/o).

Good point.

Player Statistics Comparison Matthew Leuenberger Name Matthew Kreuzer Brisbane Lions Team Carlton Blues Ruck Position Ruck 108 Career Games 119 East Perth Origin Northern Knights June 7, 1988 Date of Birth May 13, 1989 27yr 3mth Age 26yr 4mth 203cm Height 200cm 100kg Weight 103kg 2006 National Draft Last Drafted In 2007 National Draft Round 1, Pick #4 Last Draft Position Priority Pick #1 Brisbane Lions Last Drafted By Carlton Blues Career Stats for Season Career 108 Games 119 5.7 Kicks Per Game 6.0 6.3 Handballs Per Game 6.1 12.0 Disposals Per Game 12.0 3.1 Marks Per Game 2.9 0.2 Goals Per Game 0.5 0.2 Behinds Per Game 0.4 2.2 Tackles Per Game 3.5 22.9 Hitouts Per Game 17.9 1.2 Frees For Per Game 1.2 1.2 Frees Against Per Game 0.6

I think perhaps when you look at averages over a reasonable number of seasons, the differences are not that startling between a lot of ruckmen.

But when you compare current season averages with arguably the best ruckman in the comp you perhaps get a bit more perspective, strange as it may seem:

Player Statistics Comparison
	Matthew Leuenberger Name Todd Goldstein Brisbane Lions Team North Melbourne Kangaroos Ruck Position Ruck 108 Career Games 147 East Perth Origin Oakleigh June 7, 1988 Date of Birth July 1, 1988 27yr 3mth Age 27yr 2mth 203cm Height 201cm 100kg Weight 103kg 2006 National Draft Last Drafted In 2006 National Draft Round 1, Pick #4 Last Draft Position Round 3, Pick #37 Brisbane Lions Last Drafted By North Melbourne Kangaroos 2015 Stats for Season 2015 14 Games 22 3.5 Kicks Per Game 6.7 4.1 Handballs Per Game 8.2 7.6 Disposals Per Game 15.0 2.1 Marks Per Game 4.2 0.5 Goals Per Game 0.4 0.3 Behinds Per Game 0.4 2.2 Tackles Per Game 4.3 19.6 Hitouts Per Game 44.7 1.4 Inside 50s Per Game 2.2 0.1 Goal Assists Per Game 0.6 1.0 Frees For Per Game 1.8 1.1 Frees Against Per Game 1.1 3.6 Contested Possessions Per Game 8.4 4.2 Uncontested Possessions Per Game 6.9 5.9 Effective Disposals Per Game 11.3 77.6% Effective Disposals % Per Game 75.3% 1.6 Clangers Per Game 1.9 0.5 Contested Marks Per Game 1.3 0.6 Marks Inside 50 Per Game 0.4 1.3 Clearances Per Game 3.6 0.2 Rebound 50s Per Game 0.9 2.9 One Percenters Per Game 2.6 0 Bounces Per Game 0 82.1 Time On Ground % Per Game 90.0 $348,000 AFL Fantasy Price $622,000 54.4 AFL Fantasy Score Per Game 112.9 $340,200 Supercoach Price $677,000 57.6 Supercoach Score Per Game 128.1

[LostDoggy]

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I think the other statistical issue for Ruckmen is whether they are playing 1st Ruck. Leuenberger has stalled since Martin went past him at Brisbane, whenever he 1st Rucks, his figures are much better.

[Bornadog]

Re: Confirmed Trades, FS, FA, delistings etc for all AFL Clubs 2015

Kreuzer likely to stay at Carlton

[Bornadog]

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Another rumour I heard from early in the year was looking at Gorringe from GC. Don't know much about him.

[LostDoggy]

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Another rumour I heard from early in the year was looking at Gorringe from GC. Don't know much about him.

From what I have heard, has ability but has absolutely no hope of passing the no d.ckheads test.

[F'scary]

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Kreuzer likely to stay at Carlton

No-one else wants him due to injury issues.

[Dancin' Douggy]

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Memo

re: Recruiting Key Position Forwards

We have the emerging Tom Boyd with the serviceable 'Chopper Redpath (I think he is likely to improve a bit next year with the experience he gained this year) for the full forward position. Stringer can also play there. We don't need a speculative full forward recruit.

CHF is a different matter and the qualities the recruit should have would include high stamina levels, good hands, reasonable kick from 50m out, mobile. Probably around 193-4 cm and 92-94 kgs.

Maybe Redpath could develop more for the CHF role but he needs to improve in a few areas including higher involvement in the play (needs to lift his average possessions considerably). He would need to drop weight by about 7 kg (if that is possible) to increase his stamina levels and give him more mobility.

I'd be tempted to play Talia at CHF in the reserves next year and see if he develops as a CHF. However, the talk is that we are going to trade him.

I'd be very picky about recruiting a CHF. List cloggers abound in this category.

Time for me to bring back the 'talls of shame' thread. It's the silly season again!

[F'scary]

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Time for me to bring back the 'talls of shame' thread. It's the silly season again!

that was a good thread, I'm going to look it up for some laughs.

[Dancin' Douggy]

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that was a good thread, I'm going to look it up for some laughs.

Please do!