Players On and Off the Market 2016

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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34316

    Re: Players On The Market 2016

    Originally posted by chef
    Cloke
    Outside of Cloke he said. I should've mentioned that!
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • The Doctor
      Coaching Staff
      • Jan 2007
      • 3701

      Re: Players On The Market 2016

      he has mentioned we want another CHF, outside of Cloke.

      I took this as meaning we would draft a young CHF if we can. And so we should!
      Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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      • Bulldog Joe
        Premiership Moderator
        • Jul 2009
        • 5447

        Re: Players On The Market 2016

        Really don't want to see us bringing players from other clubs. I do accept that Cloke looks good value and the spot is there because of the Redpath injury.

        What we have is a great list that has won a flag with Suckling, Murphy, Wallis, Crameri, Adams arguably best 22 options already.

        We then have Webb, Bailey Williams, Bailey Dale plus Roarke Smith and Brad Lynch looking likely.

        Prefer to keep sending Dalrymple to the draft to build on his record.
        Life is to be Enjoyed not Endured

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        • comrade
          Hall of Fame
          • Jun 2008
          • 17847

          Re: Players On The Market 2016

          Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
          Really don't want to see us bringing players from other clubs. I do accept that Cloke looks good value and the spot is there because of the Redpath injury.

          What we have is a great list that has won a flag with Suckling, Murphy, Wallis, Crameri, Adams arguably best 22 options already.

          We then have Webb, Bailey Williams, Bailey Dale plus Roarke Smith and Brad Lynch looking likely.

          Prefer to keep sending Dalrymple to the draft to build on his record.
          Unless there is an out and out star that wants to come to us, I agree that hitting the draft is the way to go.

          Would love to give Dalrymple a few more picks in the 20s to work with. He has a great track record in that range.
          Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34316

            Re: Players On The Market 2016

            Originally posted by comrade
            Unless there is an out and out star that wants to come to us, I agree that hitting the draft is the way to go.

            Would love to give Dalrymple a few more picks in the 20s to work with. He has a great track record in that range.
            Well we have pick 18. Hopefully Stevens & Hrovat/Jong can get second rounders, or some upgrading. Three picks from 18-30 is plenty enough for him to nail. It certainly doesn't sound like we are going to be big traders now, despite Gordo's comments earlier in the year.
            Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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            • anfo27
              WOOF Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 1999

              Re: Players On The Market 2016

              Originally posted by bulldogtragic
              Well we have pick 18. Hopefully Stevens & Hrovat/Jong can get second rounders, or some upgrading. Three picks from 18-30 is plenty enough for him to nail. It certainly doesn't sound like we are going to be big traders now, despite Gordo's comments earlier in the year.
              Surely the money is there though BT. We chased Hurley and we would have been offering him around $750k. I don't think because we win the flag we sit on our hands come trade time. I'm hoping we do something that makes other supporters curse us. if there are players out there that would walk into our best 22 then thats who we should be chasing.

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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34316

                Re: Players On The Market 2016

                Originally posted by anfo27
                Surely the money is there though BT. We chased Hurley and we would have been offering him around $750k. I don't think because we win the flag we sit on our hands come trade time. I'm hoping we do something that makes other supporters curse us. if there are players out there that would walk into our best 22 then thats who we should be chasing.
                Agreed. My ideal scenario is Koby getting us about what we paid, a late second rounder and another player upgrading that to GCS for 21 or 22 (late second round to early second round). So say 18, 21, 36, 59, 71 & 72.

                Give Collingwood both 4th rounders (71 & 72) for Cloke. They just need him gone, it's a win/win. Both move into the rest of our strategies.
                Give Dalrymple 21, 36 & 59. That's plenty enough for him.
                Hold out pick 18 for a potential player. If one emerges great, as you say there's cap space. If not, Dalrymple gets it.

                What Hawthorn did so very well to have sustained success was trading their high later picks. Burgoyne, Gibson, Gunston, Lake, McEvoy & O'Rourke (as well as later role players like Hale). If we can turn two players into a pick around 21, then I'd like to see what pick 18 could net us during the trade window. Surely there's another Brisbane exodus with someone we could like. A back up plan of 18 & 21 with Dalrymple is a wonderful back up plan.
                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                • G-Mo77
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9873

                  Re: Players On The Market 2016

                  Originally posted by Bulldog Joe
                  Really don't want to see us bringing players from other clubs. I do accept that Cloke looks good value and the spot is there because of the Redpath injury.

                  What we have is a great list that has won a flag with Suckling, Murphy, Wallis, Crameri, Adams arguably best 22 options already.

                  We then have Webb, Bailey Williams, Bailey Dale plus Roarke Smith and Brad Lynch looking likely.

                  Prefer to keep sending Dalrymple to the draft to build on his record.
                  And listening to JMac it sounds they'll bring Cloke in and that will be about it. They'll accommodate players who want better opportunity elsewhere so I'd expect Dalrymple will have some nice picks to play with after that.

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                  • ledge
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 14033

                    Re: Players On The Market 2016

                    Don't change the list just for the sake of changing .. We have an extremely good list .. They are young and will only get better .. If players want to leave that's fine we are in a position where we will get overs for them.
                    Cloke and Crameri will fill the only void we actually have.( help out Stringer )
                    I'm not sure we have another weak position we need to fill.
                    Our list seems to cover all positions on the ground .
                    Bring back the biff

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                    • hujsh
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 11756

                      Re: Players On The Market 2016

                      We need another ruckman as depth whether it be a developing prospect or mature pickup from another club (AFL or state league)

                      We also need a forward developing at Footscray. Preferably at least 1 tall and 1 small. This can be achieved though the draft but if the right trade comes up lets take it.
                      [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                      • Sedat
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 11057

                        Re: Players On The Market 2016

                        How enjoyable has it been this year to cast a passing glance at trade week and not be obsessed by it?
                        "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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                        • MrMahatma
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Sep 2007
                          • 3960

                          Re: Players On The Market 2016

                          Will we offload Wilbur?

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                          • comrade
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 17847

                            Re: Players On The Market 2016

                            Sound like Port were pushing Hartlett out the door to relieve salary cap pressure but he's decided to stay put.

                            Might be others that get squeezed out now. Hope JMac is on the phone to Trengove's manager. Would fit our system nicely.
                            Our 1954 premiership players are our heroes, and it has to be said that Charlie was their hero.

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                            • The Adelaide Connection
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 2712

                              Re: Players On The Market 2016

                              If GC want Jong do we consider pick pocketing either Prestia or Omaera from the Hawks? Perhaps Jong + pick 18 gets one of them?

                              Not sure we need either (although both are quality), but I do really like the idea of screwing the Hawks over.

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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34316

                                Re: Players On The Market 2016

                                Jack Steele requesting St Kilda
                                Dion Prestia requesting Richmond
                                Jaeger O'Meara requesting Hawthorn
                                Caleb Marchbank requesting Carlton
                                Hayden Ballantyne requesting West Coast
                                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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