2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

[bulldogsthru&thru]

Re: 2018 AFL -Trade Rumours and Discussion

How can essendon possibly afford Shiel?

[Bornadog]

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Beat me to it. This.

Great minds think alike.

What would you give up? He is almost worth giving up pick 5

[EasternWest]

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We should be chasing Dylan Shiel.

Definitely would be very interested.

[bulldogtragic]

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Great minds think alike.

What would you give up? He is almost worth giving up pick 5

He’s worth 5 easily. Plus they wanted Honeychurch last year... I’m happy to include him, deal or no deal.

[EasternWest]

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He’s worth 5 easily. Plus they wanted Honeychurch last year... I’m happy to include him, deal or no deal.

That would be in keeping with GWS' mantra of recruiting "tough but limited Bulldogs players".

[Axe Man]

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He’s worth 5 easily. Plus they wanted Honeychurch last year... I’m happy to include him, deal or no deal.

Are you trying to sweeten the deal or make it less attractive?

[Rocket Science]

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Mark Stevens


@Stevo7AFL
14h14 hours ago
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Roughead, a free agent, is also of interest to the Saints, who are clearly looking at a major ruck shakeup ... @7NewsMelbourne

Oh dear, this is clearly Stevo trying to be helpful by beating the jungle drums for the club, as he's occasionally wont to do.

[Ozza]

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I would absolutely trade pick 5 (or 6) for Shiel - but we would need to sweeten the deal further. They are short of ruckman....Roughy? We may need to go even further to compensate them for Shiel. Then there is a issue of how we fit the salary in...

[Greystache]

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I would absolutely trade pick 5 (or 6) for Shiel - but we would need to sweeten the deal further. They are short of ruckman....Roughy? We may need to go even further to compensate them for Shiel. Then there is a issue of how we fit the salary in...

Shiel for 5-6 is a bargain. I'd give up next year's 2nd round pick if it would get it done.

[Twodogs]

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Shiel is quality, he's the type of player who makes the world a happy place when he has the ball in hand. He's had some injury concerns though hasn't he, although it's a rough game. No more than most kids coming through.

[bulldogtragic]

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I would absolutely trade pick 5 (or 6) for Shiel - but we would need to sweeten the deal further. They are short of ruckman....Roughy? We may need to go even further to compensate them for Shiel. Then there is a issue of how we fit the salary in...

Shiel for 5-6 is a bargain. I'd give up next year's 2nd round pick if it would get it done.

Agree we need to give more. If Josh Kellett & Oliver Libba are the real deal come next year, it's only losing points with a 2019 second rounder. If Roughy, Dahl & Wallis all leave for some reason (on top of retirement/s), we have a good chunk of salary cap too. The Stars could all align. I'd hope we were putting ourselves in the race.

[Bulldog4life]

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How much is Shiel worth? He must get more than Boyd surely. Then you have the Bont.

[bulldogtragic]

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How much is Shiel worth? He must get more than Boyd surely. Then you have the Bont.

We front ended Boyd, so yes he would get more. Bonts would get a lot.

If we were to free up Clay Smith, Wallis, Dahl & Roughy plus Morris (if he retires), Roberts, Campbell etc. we'd have enough salary cap for Shiel. Dalrymple said last year we still had 'The Hurley Money' and we obviously didn't use up last year which could head over to Bonts plus we would've factored in re-signing Stringer on good coin in the cap forecasts. Schache would be on less than that figure, so that gives us a net gain too. So signing Bonts is no problem too. Beyond one more big dollar player that'd be it though for big, big cost recruits. If we think it should be Shiel, a gun quick midfielder, then I'm happy to use that cap on him. Shiel, Bonts & Macrae when all fit is a damn good centre set up with a ruck. Libba & McLean are bonuses to that.

[Doc26]

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To be in the ball park for Shiel it would have to be along similar lines:

As expected, Collingwood gave up its first-round picks this year (No.7 overall) and next year's first pick for Adam Treloar, while it also gave No.65 to the Giants.

In addition to Treloar, the Giants also passed their second-round draft pick this year (No.28 overall) back to the Pies.

[Bulldog4life]

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We front ended Boyd, so yes he would get more. Bonts would get a lot.

If we were to free up Clay Smith, Wallis, Dahl & Roughy plus Morris (if he retires), Roberts, Campbell etc. we'd have enough salary cap for Shiel. Dalrymple said last year we still had 'The Hurley Money' and we obviously didn't use up last year which could head over to Bonts plus we would've factored in re-signing Stringer on good coin in the cap forecasts. Schache would be on less than that figure, so that gives us a net gain too. So signing Bonts is no problem too. Beyond one more big dollar player that'd be it though for big, big cost recruits. If we think it should be Shiel, a gun quick midfielder, then I'm happy to use that cap on him. Shiel, Bonts & Macrae when all fit is a damn good centre set up with a ruck. Libba & McLean are bonuses to that.

Is there a link to confirm this? The only thing I have read is "When Boyd arrived at the club he was still on a lower, AFL-prescribed salary for second-year players in what was his first year at the Bulldogs, but then jumped into seven figures in subsequent years".