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  • hujsh
    Hall of Fame
    • Nov 2007
    • 11887

    Re: The Chad Thread

    It's kind of poor journalism/basic analytical skills to judge his performance based on goals then state he played more time in the midfield in the last two years. Shouldn't there be some sort of assessment of his midfield impact?
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    • GVGjr
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 45016

      Re: The Chad Thread

      Originally posted by hujsh
      It's kind of poor journalism/basic analytical skills to judge his performance based on goals then state he played more time in the midfield in the last two years. Shouldn't there be some sort of assessment of his midfield impact?
      Spot on, there has to be a drop off on the scoreboard when you are playing substantially more time in the middle
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      • GVGjr
        Moderator
        • Nov 2006
        • 45016

        Re: The Chad Thread

        Port's position with the salary cap could be very different to ours. I can understand why they might think 800K is a lot but I don't quite get why they would consider trading him.
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        • bulldogtragic
          The List Manager
          • Jan 2007
          • 34289

          Re: The Chad Thread

          Interesting the tinge of it has our club as the background for the narrative in the article, and a subtle pointing out we have the strongest trade hand with pick 6. Leaving aside the points well made above.
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          • The Doctor
            Coaching Staff
            • Jan 2007
            • 3704

            Re: The Chad Thread

            Originally posted by GVGjr
            Port's position with the salary cap could be very different to ours. I can understand why they might think 800K is a lot but I don't quite get why they would consider trading him.
            Because they don't think he's worth the money he might get elsewhere. So they can't also expect more than a pick 6/7 type deal either. Certainly not 2 1st round pick as the List Manager suggests.
            Listening to Brahm's 3rd Racket

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            • Webby
              WOOF Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 1880

              Re: The Chad Thread

              What the numbers tell us is that he’s a better small forward than he is a midfielder. (As per Toby Greene, Cyril Rioli, Robbie Grey.)

              Being in a club with Robbie Grey, he’s been squeezed more into the midfield than he should be. Solution for all is for him to go to a club that desperately needs a medium-small forward. He’s more value outside or Port than he is inside Port. Dogs or Hawks are the right fit. We have the superior trade chips, so we’re the right fit.

              Hawthorn are also drifting into Cats & Swans territory. A slow, albeit credible, decline into no mans land.

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              • ledge
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2007
                • 14472

                Re: The Chad Thread

                Originally posted by Webby
                What the numbers tell us is that he’s a better small forward than he is a midfielder. (As per Toby Greene, Cyril Rioli, Robbie Grey.)

                Being in a club with Robbie Grey, he’s been squeezed more into the midfield than he should be. Solution for all is for him to go to a club that desperately needs a medium-small forward. He’s more value outside or Port than he is inside Port. Dogs or Hawks are the right fit. We have the superior trade chips, so we’re the right fit.

                Hawthorn are also drifting into Cats & Swans territory. A slow, albeit credible, decline into no mans land.
                Good point I agree with the summation of those three teams and compared to us it’s a completely different demographic. Old and slowing or young and upcoming?
                Although Box Hill did win the VFL flag this year and that’s usually a good sign of things to come.
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                • GVGjr
                  Moderator
                  • Nov 2006
                  • 45016

                  Re: The Chad Thread

                  Originally posted by The Doctor
                  Because they don't think he's worth the money he might get elsewhere. So they can't also expect more than a pick 6/7 type deal either. Certainly not 2 1st round pick as the List Manager suggests.
                  I agree, would a 1st and 2nd rounder be too much for him?
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                  • The Doctor
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 3704

                    Re: The Chad Thread

                    Originally posted by GVGjr
                    I agree, would a 1st and 2nd rounder be too much for him?
                    i think so
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                    • whythelongface
                      Coaching Staff
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 4556

                      Re: The Chad Thread

                      Originally posted by GVGjr
                      I agree, would a 1st and 2nd rounder be too much for him?
                      Probably but i can see him attracting that type of currency. Port are in a decent position where they can extract overs for Chad.

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                      • lemmon
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 6551

                        Re: The Chad Thread

                        Originally posted by whythelongface
                        Probably but i can see him attracting that type of currency. Port are in a decent position where they can extract overs for Chad.
                        Unless he nominates a destination. Chad holds the power.

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                        • Mofra
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 15060

                          Re: The Chad Thread

                          Originally posted by hujsh
                          It's kind of poor journalism/basic analytical skills to judge his performance based on goals then state he played more time in the midfield in the last two years. Shouldn't there be some sort of assessment of his midfield impact?
                          I know he was quiet in the first half of the year and in the second half was a 20+ possession, goal per game midfielder.

                          If he's willing to play forward more he instantly becomes our best forward. If that allows Gowers to get off the leash a little, Schache to keep roaming etc. we might just cobble together something resembling a functioning forwardline.
                          He can also run through the middle if he's struggling up forward which gives our mids a chop-out.
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                          • Go_Dogs
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 10209

                            Re: The Chad Thread

                            Originally posted by GVGjr
                            I don't think many are acknowledging his form line isn't as strong as what it was 2 or 3 years earlier.
                            Port don't seem willing to offer a long term deal at 800K plus whereas we might have that ability.

                            Would you consider a first and a second round pick for Wingard?
                            At the moment, I'm comfortable with offering pick 6 and getting a third round back. If Port want more I'd listen, but I'm keen to get a second pick inside the first 30 odd this year so it might mean we have to add a future pick to the equation.
                            Have you heard Butters wants to come to the Dogs?

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34289

                              Re: The Chad Thread

                              Foxsports seemingly making news off listening to other journo's and 'figures', but anyhoo:

                              " THREE-TIME premiership Hawk Terry Wallace believes star forward Chad Wingard is worth two first-round picks, should he wish to leave Port Adelaide.

                              Wingard could leave the Power at season’s end, despite having one year left on his contract.

                              The 25-year-old has been heavily linked to the Western Bulldogs — with his relationship with former Port teammate turned Bulldog Jackson Trengove a key sticking point — but Hawthorn is “definitely having a look as well”, according to Damian Barrett.

                              Wallace said Wingard, a two-time All-Australian, had “enormous” value, considering his age and talent."
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                              • Rocket Science
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 4866

                                Re: The Chad Thread

                                Good lord, Trengove's relationship with Wingard is the precise polar opposite of a "sticking point" you colossal morons.
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