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  • Happy Days
    Hall of Fame
    • May 2008
    • 10204

    Re: The Chad Thread

    I've long thought that all AFL journalists are actually wards of the state who have no job or life skills or interests apart from footy, and get given their positions out of pity and obligation.
    - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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    • Twodogs
      Moderator
      • Nov 2006
      • 27664

      Re: The Chad Thread

      Originally posted by Rocket Science
      Good lord, Trengove's relationship with Wingard is the precise polar opposite of a "sticking point" you colossal morons.

      English mother *!*!*!*!er. Do. You. Speak. it?

      Say 'what' again. I dare you.

      One of my favourite scenes of all time, given that it combines correct grammar and extreme violence. And grammar and violence are two of my favourite things...
      They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 67298

        Re: The Chad Thread

        Ken Hinkley on SEN, says Chad a top 10 player of AFL and therefore expects picks to reflect that, either 2 first or 1st and 2nd rounders. I think he was just pumping him up to get the best offer for Port.
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        • bulldogsthru&thru
          Bulldog Team of the Century
          • May 2011
          • 7911

          Re: The Chad Thread

          Originally posted by bornadog
          Ken Hinkley on SEN, says Chad a top 10 player of AFL and therefore expects picks to reflect that, either 2 first or 1st and 2nd rounders. I think he was just pumping him up to get the best offer for Port.
          Ken has gone mad. Ken has gone mad. Ken has gone completely mad!

          Sorry Ken but he's not a top 10 player of the AFL.

          What was the context of the discussion? Interesting that he didn't deny a trade?

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          • Axe Man
            Hall of Fame
            • Nov 2008
            • 11317

            Re: The Chad Thread

            Originally posted by bornadog
            Ken Hinkley on SEN, says Chad a top 10 player of AFL and therefore expects picks to reflect that, either 2 first or 1st and 2nd rounders. I think he was just pumping him up to get the best offer for Port.
            We think you are a top 10 player Chad but we aren't willing to pay you like a top 10 player. Which one is it Ken?

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            • Axe Man
              Hall of Fame
              • Nov 2008
              • 11317

              Re: The Chad Thread

              Old Kenny has lost the plot

              Port coach says Wingard is a top-10 player

              PORT Adelaide coach Ken Hinkley says Chad Wingard is a top-10 player in the AFL at his best and such talents are not ones “you let go out of your footy club very easily”.

              Wingard has been linked to the Western Bulldogs and Hawthorn on a salary of more than $800,000 a season, seen as likely to depart the Power.

              Wingard averaged 20.8 disposals and kicked 22 goals from 21 games this season.

              “Chad’s an enormous talent. He’s a really good player,” Hinkley said on SEN radio.

              “I think his best football, and it’s not that far away, even this year he played some really big games of football for us, he’s not the type of player that you let go out of your footy club very easily. Whether that’s one of our players or one of the opposition players, top-10 players in the competition are top-10 players.”

              Asked of Wingard’s worth at the trade table, Hinkley said that was not his job but such previous deals for quality players gave an indication.

              “I just said he’s a top-10 player so he’s pretty valuable,” Hinkley said.

              “If I dealt what we’ve been through in the past, we’ve dealt with Paddy Ryder, we’ve dealt with Charlie Dixon and we’ve given up first-round pick and second-round pick, two first-round picks, they’re the sort of numbers but they’re not my decisions, they’re decisions made by list management.”

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              • chef
                Hall of Fame
                • Nov 2008
                • 14698

                Re: The Chad Thread

                I'd do our first pick and the Dahlhaus compo for him. I agree with Kenny that he's a top 10 player 'at his best'.
                The curse is dead.

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                • Happy Days
                  Hall of Fame
                  • May 2008
                  • 10204

                  Re: The Chad Thread

                  1st and Young.

                  I don't rate Young but if Hinkley thinks Wingard is currently a top-10 player in the AFL maybe he does.
                  - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                  • GVGjr
                    Moderator
                    • Nov 2006
                    • 45019

                    Re: The Chad Thread

                    I'd ask Hinkley if Wingard is a top 10 player in the competition, why aren't Port paying him like one or indicating that they will after his contract expires?

                    I think it's more likely now that Port have to pony up a great deal for him to stay. They rate him and he now clearly needs to be paid well in excess on a million
                    800K isn't getting this done

                    Surely the coach would say we are holding him to his contract and we will make enough room in our cap to keep him
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                    • hujsh
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Nov 2007
                      • 11887

                      Re: The Chad Thread

                      He did also add the condition 'at his best'. But that very condition is why Port aren't paying him what he wants and why he's not worth what Port are positioning themselves for in a trade.
                      [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                      • Bulldog Revolution
                        Coaching Staff
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 3932

                        Re: The Chad Thread

                        Originally posted by GVGjr
                        I'd ask Hinkley if Wingard is a top 10 player in the competition, why aren't Port paying him like one or indicating that they will after his contract expires?

                        I think it's more likely now that Port have to pony up a great deal for him to stay. They rate him and he now clearly needs to be paid well in excess on a million
                        800K isn't getting this done

                        Surely the coach would say we are holding him to his contract and we will make enough room in our cap to keep him
                        My view is that hes worth pick 6 and nothing more

                        Hes been all australian twice but on the past 3 years form is only on the fringes of the best 50 players in the league

                        They don't want him enough or trust him to sign him to a big deal - I wouldn't offer a second or the Dahlhaus compo pick

                        They wont find a better offer than pick 6 in terms of the ability to have a swing at a star player - their call, but I dont see him returning after they initiated a fire sale

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                        • Mantis
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 15523

                          Re: The Chad Thread

                          Originally posted by Happy Days
                          1st and Young.

                          I don't rate Young but if Hinkley thinks Wingard is currently a top-10 player in the AFL maybe he does.
                          If Young departs our key defender stocks are extremely thin.. I think we keep him or at least one more year.

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                          • Axe Man
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 11317

                            Re: The Chad Thread

                            Originally posted by Mantis
                            If Young departs our key defender stocks are extremely thin.. I think we keep him or at least one more year.
                            Cordy, Naughton, Adams, Roberts, Morris (maybe not a true key defender now but still regularly plays as one) and Trengove if necessary. Even Wood in an emergency.

                            How many do we need? I thought we had too many this year and have only lost Collins so far. Couldn't afford to lose both Adams and Young but if one left I wouldn't be overly concerned.

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                            • MrMahatma
                              Coaching Staff
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 3974

                              Re: The Chad Thread

                              Originally posted by chef
                              I'd do our first pick and the Dahlhaus compo for him. I agree with Kenny that he's a top 10 player 'at his best'.
                              Top 10 in the league? I’d say that’s a stretch, even at his best.

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                              • Mantis
                                Hall of Fame
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 15523

                                Re: The Chad Thread

                                Originally posted by Axe Man
                                Cordy, Naughton, Adams, Roberts, Morris (maybe not a true key defender now but still regularly plays as one) and Trengove if necessary. Even Wood in an emergency.

                                How many do we need? I thought we had too many this year and have only lost Collins so far. Couldn't afford to lose both Adams and Young but if one left I wouldn't be overly concerned.
                                Adams can't get on the park and from rumours might want out.

                                Roberts clearly isn't in our plans given he has hardly played since early 2017... If he wasn't contracted he would've been delisted and probably is exploring his options.

                                Morris is about to enter his final year.

                                Trengove was only passable in defence and is clearly more suited in the ruck or ruck/forward.

                                I think Young should be still very much in our plans.

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