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  • Mofra
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2006
    • 14915

    Re: Proactive Poaching

    Originally posted by Ozza
    In terms of big key back - then perhaps yes. But Tomlinson has a few strings to his bow. One of which being a huge capacity to run, and an ability to play many positions (which we know that Bevo loves). The problem for me is more that he might cost a bit to get out of GWS and whether the cost is too high to get a decent footballer, but one without a really defined role of where he'd play.
    Media reported earlier in the year we were going to target him as a forward.
    I'm not sure I've seen him play forward, he has played everywhere else (even chopped out in the ruck this year).
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    • Axe Man
      Hall of Fame
      • Nov 2008
      • 11118

      Re: Proactive Poaching

      Originally posted by Ozza
      Where is Rory Thompson at? I assume he's been out injured this season.
      Good size. 100 games under his belt.
      Did his ACL pre-season and then re-signed until the end of 2023.

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      • hujsh
        Hall of Fame
        • Nov 2007
        • 11866

        Re: Proactive Poaching

        Originally posted by bornadog
        That rules out Tomlinson for me.
        What if I said he’s 1cm shorter than Rance?
        [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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        • Axe Man
          Hall of Fame
          • Nov 2008
          • 11118

          Re: Proactive Poaching

          Originally posted by Ozza
          Same height as Cordy. Probably a stretch playing on the real bigs.
          Originally posted by bornadog
          That rules out Tomlinson for me.
          Cordy is officially listed as 193cm and 90kgs. Tomlinson is 194cm and 96kgs, the exact same measurements as Alex Rance.

          I don't know if he is capable of playing key back but height alone certainly doesn't rule him out. People often seem to focus on height but weight and strength are just as important, just ask anyone that's played on Dale Morris.

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          • bulldogtragic
            The List Manager
            • Jan 2007
            • 34316

            Re: Proactive Poaching

            Originally posted by Axe Man
            Cordy is officially listed as 193cm and 90kgs. Tomlinson is 194cm and 96kgs, the exact same measurements as Alex Rance.

            I don't know if he is capable of playing key back but height alone certainly doesn't rule him out. People often seem to focus on height but weight and strength are just as important, just ask anyone that's played on Dale Morris.
            Agreed. I think if we could trade in a gorilla forward taker, then I think Tomlinson is a perfect fit for the CHF/second tall (height, strength, ability and running power) and Cordy gets the third tall to monster and go third man up (a job I think he will excel at). I really like this set up surrounded by Daniel, Crozier, JJ, Williams, etc, etc. If we can keep scoring next year, but improve the back 6 and get team defence going, we should see a quick rise in fortunes.
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            • Axe Man
              Hall of Fame
              • Nov 2008
              • 11118

              Re: Proactive Poaching

              I saw a suggestion of Aidan Corr from GWS on another site. I don't know much about him but he's a 25 year old key defender at 195cm and 97kgs. Free agent at the end of 2020 so a deal may be possible this year. 77 games but only 2 this season (plus 3 in the NEAFL) so obviously has had some injury issues.

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              • bulldogtragic
                The List Manager
                • Jan 2007
                • 34316

                Re: Proactive Poaching

                I haven't seen much of Alex Keith this year, but he's having a good year. Media reports say Victorian teams are out to get him and he's still not yet contracted. Is he capable of locking down a gorilla, or does he need a bit more space to intercept?
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                • Mofra
                  Hall of Fame
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 14915

                  Re: Proactive Poaching

                  Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                  I haven't seen much of Alex Keith this year, but he's having a good year. Media reports say Victorian teams are out to get him and he's still not yet contracted. Is he capable of locking down a gorilla, or does he need a bit more space to intercept?
                  He doesn't take the really big guys at the Crows. Elite interceptor, and weirdly the Demons are going hard for him.
                  Very late start to his career, Vic boy but spent years playing cricket in SA before joining the crows. Ex-Suns academy kid who chose cricket over footy as a teenager.
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                  • hujsh
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 11866

                    Re: Proactive Poaching

                    Originally posted by Mofra
                    He doesn't take the really big guys at the Crows. Elite interceptor, and weirdly the Demons are going hard for him.
                    Very late start to his career, Vic boy but spent years playing cricket in SA before joining the crows. Ex-Suns academy kid who chose cricket over footy as a teenager.
                    She should look at a big mature ruckman too while they’re at it
                    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                    • GVGjr
                      Moderator
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 44579

                      Re: Proactive Poaching

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      That rules out Tomlinson for me.
                      Joking? If you look at the websites for both clubs we have Cordy listed at 191cm and they have Tomlinson at 194cm
                      From a purely football perspective, Tomlinson is a better player than Cordy and I rate Cordy. He's not the gorilla you might want be he is a better player than a number of our defenders
                      We need an additional defender and he is an upgrade of what we have. I don't get the negativity if it's just based on a few cm's
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                      • Bornadog
                        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 66580

                        Re: Proactive Poaching

                        Originally posted by hujsh
                        What if I said he’s 1cm shorter than Rance?
                        But can he ruck
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                        • Bornadog
                          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 66580

                          Re: Proactive Poaching

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          Joking? If you look at the websites for both clubs we have Cordy listed at 191cm and they have Tomlinson at 194cm
                          From a purely football perspective, Tomlinson is a better player than Cordy and I rate Cordy. He's not the gorilla you might want be he is a better player than a number of our defenders
                          We need an additional defender and he is an upgrade of what we have. I don't get the negativity if it's just based on a few cm's
                          I don't rate him as a KPP, and I don't think we need him based on the players we have.
                          FFC: Established 1883

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                          • Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 8940

                            Re: Proactive Poaching

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            I don't rate him as a KPP, and I don't think we need him based on the players we have.
                            Why not, Dunks does it!

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                            • hujsh
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2007
                              • 11866

                              Re: Proactive Poaching

                              Originally posted by bornadog
                              But can he ruck
                              Apparently he has this year so sounds good to me
                              [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                              • GVGjr
                                Moderator
                                • Nov 2006
                                • 44579

                                Re: Proactive Poaching

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                I don't rate him as a KPP, and I don't think we need him based on the players we have.
                                Thats not what you said, you were told he was the same size as Cordy and you then ruled a line from him. He's 3cm taller based on the websites.

                                Out of curiosity who do we have that's better than him? This year he's averaging more possessions than Cordy, taking 2.5 more marks per game than Wood and he's also getting a few hitouts covering in the ruck. He's even averaging more disposals than Crozier

                                If you don't rate him that's okay, but it appears you were all too quick to rule a line though him because you thought he was 191cm. That doesn't appear to make a whole lot of sense to me.
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