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  • Bulldog4life
    WOOF Member
    • Oct 2007
    • 9607

    Re: Proactive Poaching

    On Bob and Chris Antsey's pod cast Chris said the rumour he, and Bob I assume too, have heard was we are into Jeremy Cameron. As well as Iaac Smith. Bob chipped into Jack Martin too. Cameron would be a huge get.

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    • dog town
      Senior Player
      • Jan 2007
      • 1911

      Re: Proactive Poaching

      As unlikely as Cameron sounds it’s a nice departure from the middling KP types we have been linked to. The absolute last thing we need on our list are KPP who are anything short of high quality. You don’t play height for the sake of it you need your big guys to have an impact.

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 66518

        Re: Proactive Poaching

        Originally posted by GVGjr
        Thats not what you said, you were told he was the same size as Cordy and you then ruled a line from him. He's 3cm taller based on the websites..
        That is correct, we don't need another player the same size as a Cordy.

        BTW: There is only 1 cm difference in height, not 3cm. Check the club sites.
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        • Twodogs
          Moderator
          • Nov 2006
          • 27654

          Re: Proactive Poaching

          Originally posted by bornadog
          That is correct, we don't need another player the same size as a Cordy.

          BTW: There is only 1 cm difference in height, not 3cm. Check the club sites.
          What about one the same size as Morris? He can't keep going forever.
          They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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          • Bornadog
            WOOF Clubhouse Leader
            • Jan 2007
            • 66518

            Re: Proactive Poaching

            Originally posted by Twodogs
            What about one the same size as Morris? He can't keep going forever.
            Every generation is growing and growing. The new FF are 200cm plus. When Morris started, 191 was okish, but let's face it he even struggled on the big boys as the years went on.
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            Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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            • Twodogs
              Moderator
              • Nov 2006
              • 27654

              Re: Proactive Poaching

              Originally posted by bornadog
              Every generation is growing and growing. The new FF are 200cm plus. When Morris started, 191 was okish, but let's face it he even struggled on the big boys as the years went on.
              Nah, he hits their body hard in order to bring the ball to ground and then beats them in the contest on the deck. There are days when he gets beaten by monster forwards and there are days when the whippets beat him. But those days are very few and far between.

              Hamling should have been the player succeeding Moz. I'm still *!*!*!*!ing furious about us letting him go and I will never be able to reconcile it.

              But you're right about successive generations being bigger. My son can lift me above his head with one arm!
              They say Burt Lancaster has one, but I don't believe them.

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              • 1eyedog
                Hall of Fame
                • Mar 2008
                • 13222

                Re: Proactive Poaching

                Originally posted by bornadog
                Every generation is growing and growing. The new FF are 200cm plus. When Morris started, 191 was okish, but let's face it he even struggled on the big boys as the years went on.
                Fev was 191 Darling is too I think, could be wrong. Chris Grant 192? There's plenty of players Tomlinson could play on from Tex Walker, Darling, Riewoldt, Gunston, Stringer, Mihocek off the tip off my head. We'd be mad not to go for Tomlinson if we think we can get him. He's plenty big enough to play on just about anyone and he has a massive tank. We are unlikely to get an elite 200cm key back in the mold of Andrews or Carlisle they're just not out there. Tomlinson can play anywhere but he would be an excellent choice at CHB.
                Last edited by 1eyedog; 17-07-2019, 11:14 PM.
                But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                • Happy Days
                  Hall of Fame
                  • May 2008
                  • 10130

                  Re: Proactive Poaching

                  Size is irrelevant and a stupid metric. Tomlinson is good and we could find a role for him because he's good so yes.

                  But never mind any of that because did Bob Murphy on a Western Bulldogs club endorsed podcast just tacitly endorse us getting Jeremy Cameron?
                  - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                  • soupman
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 5103

                    Re: Proactive Poaching

                    Tomlinson is certainly AFL quality, is versatile, and as a free agent is free. There is little downside. I am sceptical on recruiting him to be our big key defender, seeing as he has never really played that role, but I am all for grabbing him, regardless of height.

                    Geez Jeremy Cameron would be just about my most disliked player in the league, not sure how I'd feel about him becoming one of us.
                    I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                    • Bornadog
                      WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 66518

                      Re: Proactive Poaching

                      Originally posted by soupaman
                      Tomlinson is certainly AFL quality, is versatile, and as a free agent is free. There is little downside. I am sceptical on recruiting him to be our big key defender, seeing as he has never really played that role, but I am all for grabbing him, regardless of height.
                      Where would you play Tomlinson?
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                      • 1eyedog
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 13222

                        Re: Proactive Poaching

                        Cameron would be awesome. Naughton goes back problem solved.
                        But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                        • Mofra
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 14909

                          Re: Proactive Poaching

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          That is correct, we don't need another player the same size as a Cordy.

                          BTW: There is only 1 cm difference in height, not 3cm. Check the club sites.
                          We have said we'd play him forward, and at GWS he's played as a rebounding defender and on the wing, as well as stints in the middle.
                          He's a genuine utility, seems weird to rule out a utility because he's a similar height to your no 2 KPD.

                          Originally posted by bornadog
                          Every generation is growing and growing. The new FF are 200cm plus. When Morris started, 191 was okish, but let's face it he even struggled on the big boys as the years went on.
                          Mid-sized forwards are around the 191cm mark (De Goey, Stringer, etc).
                          No way I want to rule out a defender who can play on those types because we might want him to roll onto a KPP occasionally.
                          Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                          • Mofra
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 14909

                            Re: Proactive Poaching

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            Where would you play Tomlinson?
                            Wing/forward.

                            Upgrade on the players we've rolled through that position this year (Roarke Smith, Bailey Williams, Willl Hayes, etc).

                            Can change with Suckling in the back half as a defensive forward as well.
                            Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                            • Bornadog
                              WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 66518

                              Re: Proactive Poaching

                              Originally posted by Mofra
                              Wing/forward.

                              Upgrade on the players we've rolled through that position this year (Roarke Smith, Bailey Williams, Willl Hayes, etc).

                              Can change with Suckling in the back half as a defensive forward as well.
                              As long as he is what we need, then height is not the issue. BUT, if we are thinking he solves a KPP role, then forget it.

                              Is he what we need? Who does he replace in today's team? These are all questions going through my mind.

                              As far as I am concerned, I would like in no particular order, another KPP backman, who can play the gorillas and is not punching out of his weight division, a small goal sneak to compliment Lloyd (ala Betts type), and an outside genuine speedy mid.
                              FFC: Established 1883

                              Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                              • Bulldog4life
                                WOOF Member
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 9607

                                Re: Proactive Poaching

                                Originally posted by bornadog
                                As long as he is what we need, then height is not the issue. BUT, if we are thinking he solves a KPP role, then forget it.

                                Is he what we need? Who does he replace in today's team? These are all questions going through my mind.

                                As far as I am concerned, I would like in no particular order, another KPP backman, who can play the gorillas and is not punching out of his weight division, a small goal sneak to compliment Lloyd (ala Betts type), and an outside genuine speedy mid.

                                What ever happened to Kieran Collins? Seemed to have disappeared off the radar.

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