Proactive Poaching

[bulldogtragic]

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Jon Ralph on Twitter tonight:

(Q) Is Keath headed to St Kilda?

(A) JR: Dunno. Saints or dogs. Had thought dogs but McClure said saints today.

[bulldogtragic]

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Jon Ralph on Twitter tonight:

(Q) Is Keath headed to St Kilda?

(A) JR: Dunno. Saints or dogs. Had thought dogs but McClure said saints today.

Hill, Ryder, Jones, Gray and apparently interested in Crouch who wants mega money. Hard to see St Kilda having enough trade currency to pull most/all of that off, then Keath additionally. Hopefully their scattergun approach lets them chase everything while we nail down 3-4 players.

[Mofra]

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Hill, Ryder, Jones, Gray and apparently interested in Crouch who wants mega money. Hard to see St Kilda having enough trade currency to pull most/all of that off, then Keath additionally. Hopefully their scattergun approach lets them chase everything while we nail down 3-4 players.

2nd and 3rd for Bruce? Ryder and Gray wouldn't cost much, surely.

[Mofra]

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I think I’m a bit interested on 4 years $400,000+. Average afl wage is about $380,000.

For a player that good surely he commands more coin? A FA so free at the trade table. Surprised we haven't made a formal offer. He'd be our best small or medium forward, instantly.

[whythelongface]

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For a player that good surely he commands more coin? A FA so free at the trade table. Surprised we haven't made a formal offer. He'd be our best small or medium forward, instantly.

Agree. Think he is being undervalued, however the offer is probably based on his injury history and the risk associated with this.

[Danjul]

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Agree. Think he is being undervalued, however the offer is probably based on his injury history and the risk associated with this.

what were the injuries?

[G-Mo77]

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what were the injuries?

Can't remember but has missed a heap of footy over the past few seasons.

[bulldogtragic]

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2nd and 3rd for Bruce? Ryder and Gray wouldn't cost much, surely.

The consensus of decent journos seems to be just our second rounder.

If they seriously chase Crouch & Hill with the others, to me Keath is a bridge too far. Especially if they need good 2020 picks for Ben King. Or that's what I'm hoping, Keath coming our way.

[Twodogs]

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Can't remember but has missed a heap of footy over the past few seasons.

Is that Bruce?


This table is badly tabulated but other than his first couple of years he's only missed significant amounts of football in 2018

Year Team # GM W-D-L KI MK HB DI GL BH HO TK RB IF CL CG FF FA BR CP UP CM MI 1% BO GA
2012 Greater Western Sydney 47 3 0-0-3 16 12 17 33 2 1 2 5 3 4 1 1 16 17 5 2 12 1
2013 Greater Western Sydney 47 11 1-0-10 85 46 47 132 1 27 26 7 1 30 3 13 39 92 7 53 1
2014 St Kilda 27 10 2-0-8 69 45 45 114 4 1 16 8 12 3 24 6 13 43 71 9 5 35 4
2015 St Kilda 27 22 6-1-15 165 110 75 240 50 24 26 56 5 42 8 52 17 24 4 113 133 40 60 36 5
2016 St Kilda 27 22 12-0-10 127 100 106 233 38 22 27 59 3 28 8 62 16 29 1 116 121 39 42 30 2 8
2017 St Kilda 27 20 11-0-9 143 104 94 237 36 27 28 41 9 29 18 44 27 23 112 129 22 51 22 11
2018 St Kilda 27 3 1-0-2 13 12 22 35 4 7 7 2 7 5 4 5 2 21 16 3 3 2 2 1
2019 St Kilda 27 22 9-0-13 151 96 109 260 36 20 33 40 5 33 19 64 25 41 4 160 109 43 40 34 1 10
Totals 113 42-1-70 769 525 515 1284 171 95 121 248 63 161 62 284 100 146 9 620 688 168 203 224 6 40
Averages 14.13 37.61% 6.81 4.65 4.56 11.36 1.51 0.84 1.07 2.19 0.56 1.42 0.55 2.51 0.88 1.29 0.08 5.49 6.09 1.49 1.80 1.98 0.05 0.35

[Axe Man]

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what were the injuries?

Back and hamstring problems have been the main ones I think. Missed 2016 and 2018.

Is that Bruce?

No, Jamie Elliott.

[Bornadog]

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I doubt Elliot is going to leave Collingwood.

[Testekill]

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what were the injuries?

Soft tissue from my best recollection.

[G-Mo77]

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I was talking about Elliott TwoDogs

[The Doctor]

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Paul Connors mentioned today that Ben King is absolutely going nowhere. He's playing at the Suns. End of story. Til end of next year!!

So I'm going to jump on this again as I've stated before I would have him as recruiting priority.

The Connors statement means that at the end of 2020 they will assess what to do. If we haven't been presenting ourselves as a future home for him then we should be. We would have to be an attractive option for him given our need for KP players. If we were fortunate enough to get some kind of agreement I wouldn't be too worried about missing out on the likes of Keath, Howard etc

How we get him here will be the challenge with our draft picks next year likely to be used on our NGA & F/S prospects. But I think we can make it work. There is always a way. Something like us trading our 1st round pick this year for a first round pick next year so we have 2 x 2020 1st round picks. It will be ideal if we could do this with Saints as they would be likely hot competition for Kings services. That might be attractive for them however as they are clearly being aggressive this trade period, if not there is bound to be another suitor. If successful we have 2 x 2020 1st round picks and a 2021 1st round pick to trade with. They will surely be enough to secure 2 of the brightest KP prospects in the land, King & Jamarra.

[bulldogtragic]

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Adelaide’s season review on Keath:

Alex Keath played 18 games in the 2019 season, raising his career total to 30.

The key defender enjoyed a breakout season with the Crows, averaging 16.3 touches, 8.3 interception possessions and 4.7 ground ball gets (all considered elite by Champion Data).

Keath was twice recognised as best on ground this season - Round Six against St Kilda and Round Eight against Port Adelaide - polling three votes in each game in the 2019 Brownlow Medal count.

The 27-year-old also led the Club for intercept marks per game (2.7).

At a glance (AFL):
Games: 18
Disposals per game: 16.3
Intercept possessions per game: 8.3
Ground ball gets per game: 4.7

Best game:
Round Eight v Port Adelaide

It’s hard to top winning a Showdown Medal, especially in just your 20th AFL game.

Against the Power, Keath was a defensive rock as the Crows kept Port Adelaide to just three goals (from 50 inside-50s) by three-quarter-time.

And the plaudits didn’t stop with the medal… Keath was awarded 10 Coaches votes (a perfect score) and three Brownlow Medal votes.

Keath finished the match with 26 disposals, seven rebound-50s and six spoils.