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  • azabob
    Hall of Fame
    • Sep 2008
    • 15116

    Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

    Originally posted by bornadog
    We whinge about the club not having support ruck and when the club are linked to someone then we whinge again.

    Maybe he isn't right for us, but there aren't that many good talls out there.

    If he is available for $500k, I would take him and still go for a FB
    BAD I’ve changed my tune mid season on our most pressing need.
    It was 2nd ruck but now my thinking is we really need back end support in the key position ranks and also mid-small defender ranks.
    More of an In Bruges guy?

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    • azabob
      Hall of Fame
      • Sep 2008
      • 15116

      Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

      Granted I’ve only seen 1 min and 48 seconds of Lobb’s game.
      Happy Days and BAD saw a lot more than me and were impressed.

      I still hold concerns around is he more consistent than Josh Schache?
      More of an In Bruges guy?

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      • Happy Days
        Hall of Fame
        • May 2008
        • 10011

        Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

        Originally posted by azabob
        Granted I’ve only seen 1 min and 48 seconds of Lobb’s game.
        Happy Days and BAD saw a lot more than me and were impressed.

        I still hold concerns around is he more consistent than Josh Schache?
        Weeeeell.

        He’s probably not more consistent but he is a much better ruckman and forward. I actually really rate his tap work but he can be a bit stoppage to stoppage when he’s on the ball. As a forward he isn’t the pack marker you would expect; not to say he can’t do it but more that he is underwhelming for a 7 footer.

        He’s pretty much the opposite to English, but if we get him I would assume Schache is not at the club in 2023, and we would be much better off with Lobb.
        - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 65591

          Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

          Originally posted by azabob
          BAD I’ve changed my tune mid season on our most pressing need.
          It was 2nd ruck but now my thinking is we really need back end support in the key position ranks and also mid-small defender ranks.
          Fair enough,
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          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • jazzadogs
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Oct 2008
            • 5448

            Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

            My concern is not so much with Lobb (although it will be interesting to see how we structure our talls), but that I agree with aza that we have more pressing needs.

            If we are able to get Lobb and a tall defender, then that will be good news.

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            • jeemak
              Bulldog Legend
              • Oct 2010
              • 21400

              Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

              Originally posted by jazzadogs
              My concern is not so much with Lobb (although it will be interesting to see how we structure our talls), but that I agree with aza that we have more pressing needs.

              If we are able to get Lobb and a tall defender, then that will be good news.
              I get it, but we should be able to walk and chew bubble gum at the same time meaning targeting both shouldn't be too big an issue for the super smart and completely flawless Sam Power.

              Often we/ people worry about perfection and trying to strive for it gets in the way of good progress. Getting a Lobb would be good progress and just like any incremental improvement to a playing list should be done if it can be.
              TF is this?.........Obviously you're not a golfer.

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              • Scraggers
                Premiership Moderator
                • Jun 2008
                • 3551

                Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                The difference between Lobb this week compared to the last time I watched him live, was his work behind the scenes. He led three or four times rather than the once and throw his hands up. He put in second/third efforts in the ruck. I liked his game yesterday. In some ways, he was the difference.
                In saying that, we don’t need a forward/ruck unless we are moving one of our current forwards back (namely Naughton) p.s. I don’t want this. But this would be the only way we take Lobb in my opinion.

                Otherwise we need to look for a key defender. I would rather we go after Ballard from Suns or Taylor from GWS. Both young, tall key defenders.

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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 65591

                  Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                  Originally posted by Scraggers
                  The difference between Lobb this week compared to the last time I watched him live, was his work behind the scenes. He led three or four times rather than the once and throw his hands up. He put in second/third efforts in the ruck. I liked his game yesterday. In some ways, he was the difference.
                  In saying that, we don’t need a forward/ruck unless we are moving one of our current forwards back (namely Naughton) p.s. I don’t want this. But this would be the only way we take Lobb in my opinion.

                  Otherwise we need to look for a key defender. I would rather we go after Ballard from Suns or Taylor from GWS. Both young, tall key defenders.
                  Don't we need ruck backup? At this stage for 2023, we have English and Sweet and a developing Darcy. If English goes down again, we can't just rely on Sweet, and we have seen Schache is not suitable for second ruck.
                  FFC: Established 1883

                  Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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                  • MrMahatma
                    Coaching Staff
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 3960

                    Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    Don't we need ruck backup? At this stage for 2023, we have English and Sweet and a developing Darcy. If English goes down again, we can't just rely on Sweet, and we have seen Schache is not suitable for second ruck.
                    We do.

                    Do people think we can only trade in one guy every year? We should get Lobb, and we should get a key defender (or 2!).

                    It’ll come down to currency but we’ll have a first rounder (not for Lobb) and we may get another via a Dunkley trade (can’t help but think he’s not gonna be with us next year - not necessarily what I want but reckon it’s likely. He’ll get more $ elsewhere for sure).

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                    • Grantysghost
                      Bouncing Strong
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 18718

                      Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                      Originally posted by Scraggers
                      The difference between Lobb this week compared to the last time I watched him live, was his work behind the scenes. He led three or four times rather than the once and throw his hands up. He put in second/third efforts in the ruck. I liked his game yesterday. In some ways, he was the difference.
                      In saying that, we don’t need a forward/ruck unless we are moving one of our current forwards back (namely Naughton) p.s. I don’t want this. But this would be the only way we take Lobb in my opinion.

                      Otherwise we need to look for a key defender. I would rather we go after Ballard from Suns or Taylor from GWS. Both young, tall key defenders.
                      McKay from Norf too. They must all be reaching out for a move. Time for us to be aggressive.

                      Dunkley deal does seem like it's gone quiet. He might be the domino that enables some need based recruiting.
                      BT COME BACK!​

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                      • jazzadogs
                        Bulldog Team of the Century
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 5448

                        Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                        Originally posted by jeemak
                        I get it, but we should be able to walk and chew bubble gum at the same time meaning targeting both shouldn't be too big an issue for the super smart and completely flawless Sam Power.

                        Often we/ people worry about perfection and trying to strive for it gets in the way of good progress. Getting a Lobb would be good progress and just like any incremental improvement to a playing list should be done if it can be.
                        I definitely hope that we are looking into all avenues, but can understand the apprehension of some with the impression that Lobb is our #1 target.

                        I think he will be a good addition, although I have always disliked him.

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                        • Mofra
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 14794

                          Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                          Originally posted by chef
                          So when Naughton, Bruce and Marra are all fit and forward where does Lobb fit?
                          Lobb plays ahead of Bruce and Marra.
                          Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                          • Mofra
                            Hall of Fame
                            • Dec 2006
                            • 14794

                            Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                            Originally posted by Grantysghost
                            McKay from Norf too. They must all be reaching out for a move. Time for us to be aggressive.

                            Dunkley deal does seem like it's gone quiet. He might be the domino that enables some need based recruiting.
                            We've asked about Ben McKay and Jaxon Paine every year they've been available.
                            Pretty sure Power said earlier in the year that a KPD is our no 1 priority. I expect we make a play for a player or two. I'm expecting us to get a Zerk-Thercher type who would be a marginal upgrade of Cordy, The KPD market is pretty hot
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                            • Axe Man
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 10866

                              Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                              Originally posted by Mofra
                              We've asked about Ben McKay and Jaxon Paine every year they've been available.
                              Pretty sure Power said earlier in the year that a KPD is our no 1 priority. I expect we make a play for a player or two. I'm expecting us to get a Zerk-Thercher type who would be a marginal upgrade of Cordy, The KPD market is pretty hot
                              I seem to remember a report that we were looking at a forward that we thought we could switch into a back. I am assuming a fringe type, any theories on who it could be?

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                              • MrMahatma
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 3960

                                Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                                Originally posted by Mofra
                                We've asked about Ben McKay and Jaxon Paine every year they've been available.
                                Pretty sure Power said earlier in the year that a KPD is our no 1 priority. I expect we make a play for a player or two. I'm expecting us to get a Zerk-Thercher type who would be a marginal upgrade of Cordy, The KPD market is pretty hot
                                I hope we go pretty hard. I mean, there’s really no pout having a great midfield and the number of A-Graders or potential stars in our team, if we don’t have them in the right spot. No point having a strong list for a long time and not winning anything. I’d rather have an awesome list for 3-4 years and win a flag or 2. We really need to make it count next year and next year starts with recruiting now.

                                Hard as it may feel, but we’re gonna have to off load a couple blokes and target a couple of others.

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