Early Trade Rumours for 2022

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  • Mofra
    Hall of Fame
    • Dec 2006
    • 15060

    Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

    Originally posted by Sedat
    Hawthorn gave Lake 3 years at an older age to Jones and he was never one of the great trainers of all time. I'm not sold on the 3 years but there is precedent that it can work and work well.

    Jones is a clear upgrade on all our existing batch of key defenders. If he puts the work in to get rock hard fit, he will structure us up so much better in 2023.
    Lake was 30 in 2012
    Jones is currently 31

    Lake was elite for many years, Jones has been 'very good' for 2.

    Add his time out of the game, I see this move as far more risky
    Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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    • Sedat
      Hall of Fame
      • Sep 2007
      • 11432

      Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

      Originally posted by Mofra
      Lake was 30 in 2012
      Jones is currently 31

      Lake was elite for many years, Jones has been 'very good' for 2.

      Add his time out of the game, I see this move as far more risky
      I stand corrected, thought Lake was older than that. Jones has been a more than very good and for longer than 2 years. He might not have a longer or better body of work than Lake but he has been a high quality AFL key defender.
      "Look at me mate. Look at me. I'm flyin'"

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      • Bornadog
        WOOF Clubhouse Leader
        • Jan 2007
        • 67278

        Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

        Originally posted by Sedat
        I stand corrected, thought Lake was older than that. Jones has been a more than very good and for longer than 2 years. He might not have a longer or better body of work than Lake but he has been a high quality AFL key defender.
        Also won't cost us picks
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        • azabob
          Hall of Fame
          • Sep 2008
          • 15406

          Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

          Originally posted by bornadog
          Also won't cost us picks
          Maybe will wash the JJ compensation if he leaves via free agency.
          More of an In Bruges guy?

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          • GVGjr
            Moderator
            • Nov 2006
            • 45000

            Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

            Originally posted by azabob
            Maybe will wash the JJ compensation if he leaves via free agency.
            At a guess Carlton will get compensated but I'm not convinced we will lose anything. He did after all retire.
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            • Axe Man
              Hall of Fame
              • Nov 2008
              • 11301

              Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

              I'm not sure either Jones or JJ contracts will be sufficient to trigger compensation, but at the most we are talking third round picks.

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              • GVGjr
                Moderator
                • Nov 2006
                • 45000

                Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                Originally posted by Axe Man
                I'm not sure either Jones or JJ contracts will be sufficient to trigger compensation, but at the most we are talking third round picks.
                That we be about it.
                Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                • Happy Days
                  Hall of Fame
                  • May 2008
                  • 10204

                  Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                  Paddy McCartin still unsigned. No real discussion or noise about an extension for him. Family, friends, whatever memories he still has of the first half of his twenties all waiting for him in Melbourne. Us with suddenly no players of any real quality over 190cms in the back line and apparently some open cap space.

                  I am once again asking for someone to do something to make the most obvious pairing since PTA and Daniel Day Lewis happen.
                  - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                  • Axe Man
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 11301

                    Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                    Originally posted by Happy Days
                    Paddy McCartin still unsigned. No real discussion or noise about an extension for him. Family, friends, whatever memories he still has of the first half of his twenties all waiting for him in Melbourne. Us with suddenly no players of any real quality over 190cms in the back line and apparently some open cap space.

                    I am once again asking for someone to do something to make the most obvious pairing since PTA and Daniel Day Lewis happen.
                    I think he would have a sense of owing the Swans for giving him a chance and there would have to be a significant difference in contract length and $$$ for him to contemplate leaving.

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                    • Mofra
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 15060

                      Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                      Originally posted by Axe Man
                      I think he would have a sense of owing the Swans for giving him a chance and there would have to be a significant difference in contract length and $$$ for him to contemplate leaving.
                      Not to mention playing with his brother.
                      Western Bulldogs: 2016 Premiers

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 45000

                        Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                        I heard McCartin talk the other day and I would be surprised if he is looking to move. Seems to like it up there and is very appreciative for the opportunity he received. It's obviously still has some risks but he seems confident in himself.
                        Maybe for us the experience with the struggles Picken endured would have us being very cautious.

                        We probably should be having a talk to him.
                        Western Bulldogs Football Club "Where it's cool to drool"

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                        • Happy Days
                          Hall of Fame
                          • May 2008
                          • 10204

                          Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                          Originally posted by Axe Man
                          I think he would have a sense of owing the Swans for giving him a chance and there would have to be a significant difference in contract length and $$$ for him to contemplate leaving.
                          So let’s give him that significant difference in contract length and dollars. It’s a far more enticing option than putting a Liam Jones shaped clamp on our rear tyre for 3 years.

                          Also, if all of that is true then why hasn’t he re-signed yet?
                          - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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                          • soupman
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 5131

                            Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                            Originally posted by Axe Man
                            I think he would have a sense of owing the Swans for giving him a chance and there would have to be a significant difference in contract length and $$$ for him to contemplate leaving.
                            Yeah good on them. But lets offer him a good contract then. Sydney are arseholes who will steal any of our talent they think they can get their hands on, why should we make it easy for them to keep theirs? Especially when he fills a glaring need and is a free agent.
                            I should leave it alone but you're not right

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                            • Grantysghost
                              Bouncing Strong
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 19102

                              Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                              Originally posted by soupman
                              Yeah good on them. But lets offer him a good contract then. Sydney are arseholes who will steal any of our talent they think they can get their hands on, why should we make it easy for them to keep theirs? Especially when he fills a glaring need and is a free agent.
                              We took Veszpremi.
                              BT COME BACK!​

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                              • Happy Days
                                Hall of Fame
                                • May 2008
                                • 10204

                                Re: Early Trade Rumours for 2022

                                Originally posted by Grantysghost
                                We took Veszpremi.
                                Who could still make it if he’s just given an extended run in the firsts.
                                - I'm a visionary - Only here to confirm my biases -

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