Ricky Nixon joins the Conga line

[Bornadog]

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Sorry Chops, not ignoring you.
Just regretting I ever dipped my toe in to this sordid quicksand of a discussion.

For what it's worth, I had a torrid affair with a 17 year old when I was 23.
We are married, have 3 kids, and have been together for 24 years.

Still love her as much as I did then. Well more.

I honestly believe teenagers today are way different than they were 24 years ago. I know thats a bit of a sweeping statement, but the information age has changed the world.

[Sockeye Salmon]

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I honestly believe teenagers today are way different than they were 24 years ago. I know thats a bit of a sweeping statement, but the information age has changed the world.

Spoke to my cousin last weekend for the first time in many years (no animosity, just not close). I found out he has 60 employees and is taking on 6 new apprentices in the next few weeks. he is insisting that they are between 21 and 25 because "21yos today are about where we all were when we were 16".

We're in our 40's.

[Greystache]

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I honestly believe teenagers today are way different than they were 24 years ago. I know thats a bit of a sweeping statement, but the information age has changed the world.

Today they're given the freedom of adults and the responsibility of children, what do you expect?!

[Before I Die]

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Not all of us agree. I'm no fan of St Kilda, but what would you like the AFL / St Kilda to do?
Imagine one of our players has a relationship with a girl who lies about her age, pretends to be pregnant and so forth.
Could you imagine a much more different reaction?She has been offered counselling, an apartment and met with the club and the AFL a number of times. So beyond this, what would your expectations be?

Yes, I agree, I don't get your point. And she is not ....a....child.

If you are suggesting that I would have a different perspective if it was the Bulldogs involved rather than the Aints, then you are completely and utterly wrong. I can't speak for other posters.

The Aints handled it badly from the outset because they knew they had lots to hide so they went on the attack. That went very badly for them because of her age so then they changed tact.

Really this whole sorry tale has just highlighted the fact that most AFL clubs still act as "Boys Clubs" and though misogyny is probably too strong a word, it is not that far off the mark for a number of figures spread throughout the football establishment.

[Before I Die]

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I just wanted to add that I can't believe there is still so much discussion about the girl. Everyone knows she is dishonest, deceptive, manipulative, promiscuous, vindictive and emotionally immature whilst at the same time being physically mature and quite likely also very attractive. Which partially explains the behaviour of the Aints players and Nixon and justifies absolutely none of it.

The girl is irrelevant, all she has done is expose the ugly underbelly that we all knew was there. The shame is in watching the AFL quickly pull the covers back up.

[Ghost Dog]

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Fair enough. Anyway, long arm of the law catching up with Mr Nixon Today I see.

[The Adelaide Connection]

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I just wanted to add that I can't believe there is still so much discussion about the girl. Everyone knows she is dishonest, deceptive, manipulative, promiscuous, vindictive and emotionally immature whilst at the same time being physically mature and quite likely also very attractive. Which partially explains the behaviour of the Aints players and Nixon and justifies absolutely none of it.

The girl is irrelevant, all she has done is expose the ugly underbelly that we all knew was there. The shame is in watching the AFL quickly pull the covers back up.

Well said, and on that note I hope this thread can finally go to bed. Hoping, but not holding my breath...feel like this one has not quite run it's race and more revelations will be forthcoming.

[chef]

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Never said she was an adult.
Never said all her issues were due to drugs and alchohol.

But they no doubt play a part, ( based on her twitter posts, reported in the age - being juiced up at clubs etc etc.
Never said they were all the same. But, If they want their lives to go in positive directions, they have to make positive choices. Ask any parent. As mentioned, yep, minors they are. But at some point, parents have to stand back and say ' that's your call and your problem'. The Nanny state will cry ' They are just a child' but that's like saying a half baked cake is not a cake.

I'm sure once you have kids mate your opinion will change.

[Maddog37]

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Sorry Chops, not ignoring you.
Just regretting I ever dipped my toe in to this sordid quicksand of a discussion.

For what it's worth, I had a torrid affair with a 17 year old when I was 23.
We are married, have 3 kids, and have been together for 24 years.

Still love her as much as I did then. Well more.

Is it still torrid??

[Ghost Dog]

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I'm sure once you have kids mate your opinion will change.

All I ever do, from 7.30 until 8pm is teach 17 year olds.

People who makes the laws don't have kids at Frankston High whatever.
I've seen scrag fights, girls doing unspeakable things to others, knowing full well they cannot be touched, while they taunt teachers who stand back, helpless as they know touching a girl is out.
. They taunt and they laugh about it.
I've seen good teachers been lined up quite deliberately with the intention of getting them sacked, by a certain type of teen for no good reason other than they were asked to stop using their mobile in class. Some accusation is made, so the teachers quit or leave the profession because of the power weilded through facebook or other. Some of them REALLY know the system and how to use it.

All this playing of the 'child' card ignores certain facts and people not around those of this generation find the call to force a tougher hand harsh. It's not Andrew Bolte you're talking to here, member of various left wing associations etc.
But as a poster says. It's really about Rick Nixon and adults who use their pull in the sporting world to create an environment. The lure of the light.

I never thought I would come across as I sound here but there you have it. I see what I see because of my work and IMO she's a minor party to this mess ( the law says otherwise ) , and not a child but ....IMO .....feel free to disagree.

[Missing Dog]

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All I ever do, from 7.30 until 8pm is teach 17 year olds.

People who makes the laws don't have kids at Frankston High whatever.
I've seen scrag fights, girls doing unspeakable things to others, knowing full well they cannot be touched, while they taunt teachers who stand back, helpless as they know touching a girl is out.
. They taunt and they laugh about it.
I've seen good teachers been lined up quite deliberately with the intention of getting them sacked, by a certain type of teen for no good reason other than they were asked to stop using their mobile in class. Some accusation is made, so the teachers quit or leave the profession because of the power weilded through facebook or other. Some of them REALLY know the system and how to use it.

All this playing of the 'child' card ignores certain facts and people not around those of this generation find the call to force a tougher hand harsh. It's not Andrew Bolte you're talking to here, member of various left wing associations etc.
But as a poster says. It's really about Rick Nixon and adults who use their pull in the sporting world to create an environment. The lure of the light.

I never thought I would come across as I sound here but there you have it. I see what I see because of my work and IMO she's a minor party to this mess ( the law says otherwise ) , and not a child but ....IMO .....feel free to disagree.

^^^^^

That's all great, but they are not YOUR children.

[Murphy'sLore]

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Today they're given the freedom of adults and the responsibility of children, what do you expect?!

This is so true.

This generation of parents (not totally excluding myself) are so desperate to protect our kids from any kind of real or perceived risk that we rob them of the opportunity to make their own decisions and take the consequences, even if that involves some harm. Of course once they hit adolescence, they think they're bullet-proof. Now I did some pretty stupid things when I was 17 and I was lucky I came out unscathed, but I did have some idea what the consequences of my actions might be and maybe that made me pull back at a couple of crucial moments.

Today's kids hit 17-18, suddenly they have access to all the toys in the adults' playbox but some of them have no idea how to handle it because they have never learned how to assess risks, make their own decisions, and protect themselves.

[Dancin' Douggy]

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Is it still torrid??

oh yeah.....

[Twodogs]

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This is so true.

This generation of parents (not totally excluding myself) are so desperate to protect our kids from any kind of real or perceived risk that we rob them of the opportunity to make their own decisions and take the consequences, even if that involves some harm. Of course once they hit adolescence, they think they're bullet-proof. Now I did some pretty stupid things when I was 17 and I was lucky I came out unscathed, but I did have some idea what the consequences of my actions might be and maybe that made me pull back at a couple of crucial moments.

Today's kids hit 17-18, suddenly they have access to all the toys in the adults' playbox but some of them have no idea how to handle it because they have never learned how to assess risks, make their own decisions, and protect themselves.

Good post. I thnk that this generationo f parents (including myself) have been reluctant to let our kids make, and learn from, mistakes.

I look back at my childhood, think about the stuff we got up to and then compare it to how I bring my kids up. It's totally different. I walked to school with my mates without a parent in sight from the time I got to primary school. There were fights, teasing and diversions but the point is I matured a lot quicker than my own kids have.

It frustates me how immature my 12 and 9 year olds act sometimes but then it's my bad because I have been looking over their shoulder and sheperding them away from trouble pretty much every step of the way. We learn from our mistakes and I havent given my kids the chance to make a lot of the same mistakes I made.

[Ghost Dog]

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^^^^^

That's all great, but they are not YOUR children.

We are not talking about children. Teenagers.
In many cultures, Aboriginal Australian and others, it's the uncle that initiates the son, not the father. In some cases, not all, parents don't have the perspective needed to deal with teens. So we end up with a bunch of young people that cry out for discipline and don't get it. IMO.