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  • Missing Dog
    WOOF Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 8501

    Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

    Originally posted by soupaman
    I'm pretty sure it's actually written down that they can trade 2 this year and 2 next. They aren't allowed to do three this year, even if we offer Griffen with Liam Jones thrown in.
    This is incorrect.

    "The most likely scenario will see GWS auction off two picks to the highest bidders this year and then repeat the process next year in order to maximise their return.

    However, if interest in this year's crop of players born in the eligibility window creates a bidding war, then the Giants can conceivably move on all four picks, which the successful clubs can then use on the player of their choice if he's still available."

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    • SlimPickens
      Coaching Staff
      • Aug 2010
      • 2929

      Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

      Originally posted by Chops
      Rumours say Toovey wants 350K. Not sure he is worth that
      I think Toovey is fairly underated, he is rarely beaten and provides a good option when turning defence into attack. I'd imagine a club would be happy to pay that or possibly a mil over 3 years.
      "Loves a scrap....oh yeah & he's a pretty handy footballer as well"

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      • SlimPickens
        Coaching Staff
        • Aug 2010
        • 2929

        Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

        Originally posted by G-Mo77
        Would love to get #45.
        Would jump at this, to think what might have been last trade period.
        "Loves a scrap....oh yeah & he's a pretty handy footballer as well"

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66843

          Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

          Originally posted by SlimPickens
          I think Toovey is fairly underated, he is rarely beaten and provides a good option when turning defence into attack. I'd imagine a club would be happy to pay that or possibly a mil over 3 years.
          I would take him.
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          • LostDoggy
            WOOF Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 8307

            Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

            Originally posted by bornadog
            I would take him.
            ditto.

            We are not exactly overflowing for defensive options and waiting three years for a draft pick who may or may not come on doesn't bode well for our ability to shut teams down.

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            • SlimPickens
              Coaching Staff
              • Aug 2010
              • 2929

              Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

              Originally posted by bornadog
              I would take him.
              agree
              "Loves a scrap....oh yeah & he's a pretty handy footballer as well"

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              • Greystache
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Dec 2009
                • 9775

                Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                Originally posted by SlimPickens
                agree
                Is he really able to shut down dangerous small forwards like Milne, Betts, Rioli etc?
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                • Bornadog
                  WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 66843

                  Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                  Originally posted by Greystache
                  Is he really able to shut down dangerous small forwards like Milne, Betts, Rioli etc?
                  I don't think he is, he is more of an attacking HBF and a good replacement for Shaggy.
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                  • Greystache
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 9775

                    Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                    Originally posted by bornadog
                    I don't think he is, he is more of an attacking HBF and a good replacement for Shaggy.
                    Personally I think the attacking half back role is the easiest position to fill in an AFL team. Any team with an abundance of midfielders can play one or two there, or a half forward struggling to get into games can be thrown back there, I wouldn't be looking to pay overs to bring in a specialist attacking half back who's only a good ordinary player.

                    On the same topic we seem to be making a huge effort in the draft to recruit this skill set (Howard, Tutt, Schofield), when in reality drafting quick players with good kicking skills can play back there while developing so long as they have the required competitiveness.

                    If we're going to chase defenders I'd prefer to get one who can shut down a small crumbing forward. They're probably cheaper too due to be a less glamorous type of player.
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                    • Sedat
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 11277

                      Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                      Originally posted by Greystache
                      Is he really able to shut down dangerous small forwards like Milne, Betts, Rioli etc?
                      He would be in the best dozen one-on-one defenders in the competition IMO. He wasn't right in the last couple of months of 2011 after being bashed to a pulp running with the flight of the ball mid season, so I would take his late season drop away in form with a grain of salt.

                      I would get him to the kennel in a heartbeat.
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                      • Missing Dog
                        WOOF Member
                        • Jan 2007
                        • 8501

                        Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                        Is Toovey really an attacking HBF? Averaged 12 disposals for the year, not exactly damaging by foot. Am i missing something?

                        I was sure he was a defensive type.

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                        • SlimPickens
                          Coaching Staff
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 2929

                          Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                          Originally posted by Greystache
                          Is he really able to shut down dangerous small forwards like Milne, Betts, Rioli etc?
                          Looking for the stats to back me up but i seem to recall him having one of the lowest (in terms of goals against) totals in the collingwoods back line this year.

                          I think he would be a good player for us to get as our mid sized good defenders are lacking especially with Dale injured, Shaggy coming to the end of his career and Murphy basically carrying the defence all year.

                          I don't think we will get him but as Chops said he thought 350K a year was to high, i disagree.
                          "Loves a scrap....oh yeah & he's a pretty handy footballer as well"

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                          • Maddog37
                            WOOF Member
                            • Nov 2010
                            • 3132

                            Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                            Originally posted by bornadog
                            GWS now have the first 5 picks in the draft and 11 of the first 14
                            They will be a touch deflated if the draft is as weak as suggested. Time will tell I guess.

                            Also I am relieved we did not get caught up in the 17 y.o. Auction. Seemed like everyone was getting a bit excited about these kids.

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                            • LostDoggy
                              WOOF Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 8307

                              Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                              Originally posted by Maddog37
                              They will be a touch deflated if the draft is as weak as suggested. Time will tell I guess.

                              Also I am relieved we did not get caught up in the 17 y.o. Auction. Seemed like everyone was getting a bit excited about these kids.
                              Our name was dropped around for Crouch but looks like Adelaide have come to terms with securing him. Besides Josh possibly moving to WC, can't see any trade action coming our way - which is not a bad thing, no one really out there that screams "Use the first round/ward pick and go get him!"

                              Hope we can pluck a couple of guns from the draft.

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                              • Bulldog Revolution
                                Coaching Staff
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 3928

                                Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                                How much are the crows kidding themselves on Maric

                                If they really rated him why didn't they play him

                                Ridiculous posturing, taken the 2nd round pick and shut up

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