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  • KT31
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Jul 2008
    • 5454

    Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

    Originally posted by bulldogsman
    Is Toovey really an attacking HBF? Averaged 12 disposals for the year, not exactly damaging by foot. Am i missing something?

    I was sure he was a defensive type.
    I think Toovey is a case of having better cattle on the padock and having teammates relieve a lot offthe preasure.
    If Brian is up and running and we have a solid backline, could he take on the role Harbrow once played ?
    Last edited by KT31; 13-10-2011, 08:20 AM.
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    • G-Mo77
      Bulldog Team of the Century
      • Apr 2007
      • 9873

      Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

      Originally posted by bulldogsman
      Is Toovey really an attacking HBF? Averaged 12 disposals for the year, not exactly damaging by foot. Am i missing something?

      I was sure he was a defensive type.
      Just a fringe player who's able to adapt to certain role in a good side. Would have no currency if he played for us or any weaker teams.

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      • Mantis
        Hall of Fame
        • Apr 2007
        • 15204

        Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

        Originally posted by G-Mo77
        Just a fringe player who's able to adapt to certain role in a good side. Would have no currency if he played for us or any weaker teams.
        Fringe? Yeah right.

        He is a very good shut down player who would have currency regardless of the team he played for.

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        • SlimPickens
          Coaching Staff
          • Aug 2010
          • 2929

          Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

          Originally posted by Mantis
          Fringe? Yeah right.

          He is a very good shut down player who would have currency regardless of the team he played for.
          Of course he is fringe.... coach loved him, team mates loved playing with him and has played every game bar injury in the last two years.
          "Loves a scrap....oh yeah & he's a pretty handy footballer as well"

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          • G-Mo77
            Bulldog Team of the Century
            • Apr 2007
            • 9873

            Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

            Originally posted by Mantis
            Fringe? Yeah right.

            He is a very good shut down player who would have currency regardless of the team he played for.
            OK we'll see how he goes at his new team then.

            Maybe I shouldn't have used the word fringe, had a few beers last night. Not as good as Collingwood supporters and media proclaim. Sound better?

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            • Desipura
              WOOF Member
              • Mar 2008
              • 4344

              Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

              Originally posted by Greystache
              Personally I think the attacking half back role is the easiest position to fill in an AFL team. Any team with an abundance of midfielders can play one or two there, or a half forward struggling to get into games can be thrown back there, I wouldn't be looking to pay overs to bring in a specialist attacking half back who's only a good ordinary player.

              On the same topic we seem to be making a huge effort in the draft to recruit this skill set (Howard, Tutt, Schofield), when in reality drafting quick players with good kicking skills can play back there while developing so long as they have the required competitiveness.

              If we're going to chase defenders I'd prefer to get one who can shut down a small crumbing forward. They're probably cheaper too due to be a less glamorous type of player.
              Anyone available?

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              • Mofra
                Hall of Fame
                • Dec 2006
                • 14802

                Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                Originally posted by bulldogsman
                Is Toovey really an attacking HBF? Averaged 12 disposals for the year, not exactly damaging by foot. Am i missing something?

                I was sure he was a defensive type.
                Same as Wood; Easten averaged 12.1.
                Toovey had a little more disjointed season and I still rate him highly - certainly more than Bower
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                • G-Mo77
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9873

                  Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                  emmasq Emma Quayle
                  Believe the port-wc-gws deal for ebert-cornes-brogan might've been done without the Dogs, who weren't happy with the pick offered for Hill.

                  Shakes head.

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                  • hujsh
                    Hall of Fame
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 11739

                    Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                    Originally posted by G-Mo77
                    emmasq Emma Quayle
                    Believe the port-wc-gws deal for ebert-cornes-brogan might've been done without the Dogs, who weren't happy with the pick offered for Hill.

                    Shakes head.
                    Maybe we just overrate everyone. Bate's worth pick 39, Hill is worth more than 49, next Minson will be worth pick 5
                    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                    • ledge
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 14033

                      Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                      Originally posted by hujsh
                      Maybe we just overrate everyone. Bate's worth pick 39, Hill is worth more than 49, next Minson will be worth pick 5
                      This i think is because we are still happy to keep Hill and see how he goes under new coach.
                      We dont really want to get rid of him unless an offer is very attractive, so we ask for more if we dont get it big deal he stays.
                      Bring back the biff

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                      • hujsh
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 11739

                        Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                        Originally posted by ledge
                        This i think is because we are still happy to keep Hill and see how he goes under new coach.
                        We dont really want to get rid of him unless an offer is very attractive, so we ask for more if we dont get it big deal he stays.
                        Does Hill have another year? I thought this would be the last year of his contract. If we really want to keep him then fair enough.
                        [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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                        • ledge
                          Hall of Fame
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 14033

                          Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                          Originally posted by hujsh
                          Does Hill have another year? I thought this would be the last year of his contract. If we really want to keep him then fair enough.
                          Not sure but from what I read we are happy to keep him.
                          Bring back the biff

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                          • anfo27
                            WOOF Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 1999

                            Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                            Originally posted by ledge
                            This i think is because we are still happy to keep Hill and see how he goes under new coach.
                            We dont really want to get rid of him unless an offer is very attractive, so we ask for more if we dont get it big deal he stays.
                            Agree with you here Ledge. To trade him for a pick that only upgrades us 3-4 spots in the 40's is a waste of our time. I'm not a big Hill fan as his intensity is below AFL standard but he has a lot of talent and still only 22 so we must be thinking Eade couldn't get the best out of him and if macca can we will have a good player on our hands.
                            I'm happy for macca to give him 12 months to try and work him out. I don't think we rate our players too much but rather how was that deal going to benefit us?
                            I think when Eade left Hill seem to play with more enthusiasm so change of coach might be exactly what changes his career around, i hope so.

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                            • azabob
                              Hall of Fame
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 15129

                              Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                              Originally posted by hujsh
                              Does Hill have another year? I thought this would be the last year of his contract. If we really want to keep him then fair enough.
                              He must have another year otherwise we would get what we could for him.
                              More of an In Bruges guy?

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                              • Bornadog
                                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 65619

                                Re: Trade talk: club-by-club analysis

                                Originally posted by azabob
                                He must have another year otherwise we would get what we could for him.
                                According to Emma Quayle he is uncontracted.
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