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  • Greystache
    Bulldog Team of the Century
    • Dec 2009
    • 9775

    #16
    Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

    They're going to work hard to minimise the damage to the Bombers as much as possible. In all honesty if Hird was prepared to take the fall for the good of the club they'd probably get off close to Scot free.
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    • bulldogtragic
      The List Manager
      • Jan 2007
      • 34289

      #17
      Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

      Essendon would be reasonably happy I would have thought.
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      • DOG GOD
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jul 2007
        • 6542

        #18
        Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

        Typical
        I will never see #16 the same!!

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        • Remi Moses
          WOOF Member
          • Jan 2009
          • 14785

          #19
          Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

          I actually want them to lose draft picks , as this will hurt them more.

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          • Mofra
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2006
            • 14944

            #20
            Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

            Originally posted by Remi Moses
            I actually want them to lose draft picks , as this will hurt them more.
            Ditto. There will be further sanctions when ASADA finalise their report - they have only been granted powers to compel Dank to interview since 1 August.

            I do feel for their players, but any sympathy I have for Hird, Little & many of their fans has long since evaporated.
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            • DOG GOD
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jul 2007
              • 6542

              #21
              Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

              Do u think hird and the like will be suspended from the game for bringing the game into disrepute, or will it just be a club fine?
              I will never see #16 the same!!

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              • Dry Rot
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Jan 2007
                • 6444

                #22
                Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

                From what I have read, it seems that ASADA has just acquired the ability to compel witnesses to give evidence from 1 August.

                ATM, there isn't enough evidence about what particular player got when, therefore no infractions.

                But that may change when Dank is compelled to give evidence to ASADA.
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                • Ghost Dog
                  WOOF Member
                  • May 2010
                  • 9404

                  #23
                  Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

                  Gets fined $5000 clams a day if he doesn't talk to ASADA. That's a lot of seafood.
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                  • BornInDroopSt'54
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 5254

                    #24
                    Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

                    Originally posted by Remi Moses
                    I actually want them to lose draft picks , as this will hurt them more.
                    Lowering their salary cap would be justifiable and fair compensation to the other clubs. They have disgraced the league and the penalty must reflect that. There can be no whitewash or lack of rigour in their penalties or else the competition is reduced to farce.
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                    • Sedat
                      Hall of Fame
                      • Sep 2007
                      • 11243

                      #25
                      Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

                      Originally posted by Dry Rot
                      From what I have read, it seems that ASADA has just acquired the ability to compel witnesses to give evidence from 1 August.

                      ATM, there isn't enough evidence about what particular player got when, therefore no infractions.

                      But that may change when Dank is compelled to give evidence to ASADA.
                      Bingo. Today was all about charging the club based on governance issues, which Essendon would be insane to argue against. Then ASADA will quietly go about finishing their report in the off season and will smash the players.

                      Take note of the wording tonight. Investigaion continuing (no set end date, a la Lance Armstrong). No individuals to be given infraction notices at this point in time (club infraction still very much in play).
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                      • Scraggers
                        Premiership Moderator
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 3564

                        #26
                        Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

                        Originally posted by westdog54
                        ASADA's investigation ongoing, no conclusive proof against any individual player. This keeps getting forgotten in the debate.
                        Watson's confession that he took a banned substance is not proof? He admitted it! In a murder trial, this would have you in a gas chamber in the US.

                        Essence on have been very canny in their defence ... Releasing information, comments, pleas all at the right time. It would not surprise me if they had paid The Weapon to give his 'non-factual' account just to throw authorities off the scent !! (Far fetched, I know)


                        Throw the book at them ... Spine first !!

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                        • westdog54
                          Bulldog Team of the Century
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 6686

                          #27
                          Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

                          Originally posted by Scraggers
                          Watson's confession that he took a banned substance is not proof? He admitted it! In a murder trial, this would have you in a gas chamber in the US.

                          Essence on have been very canny in their defence ... Releasing information, comments, pleas all at the right time. It would not surprise me if they had paid The Weapon to give his 'non-factual' account just to throw authorities off the scent !! (Far fetched, I know)


                          Throw the book at them ... Spine first !!
                          No he didn't.

                          What he said was that one of the substances he was administered through the year MAY have been AOD-9604. That's not a confession and its yet another example of how debate on this is being contaminated.

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                          • Scraggers
                            Premiership Moderator
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 3564

                            #28
                            Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

                            Originally posted by westdog54
                            No he didn't.

                            What he said was that one of the substances he was administered through the year MAY have been AOD-9604. That's not a confession and its yet another example of how debate on this is being contaminated.
                            I would love to see the transcript ... My recollection was an admission.

                            I take your point though, trying to get a fair trial anywhere (other than Airport West) will be impossible.

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                            • Greystache
                              Bulldog Team of the Century
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 9775

                              #29
                              Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

                              Originally posted by Scraggers
                              I would love to see the transcript ... My recollection was an admission.

                              I take your point though, trying to get a fair trial anywhere (other than Airport West) will be impossible.
                              My recollection is he said "my understanding is I was given AOD-9604, yes"

                              So not quite a confession, but an admission of possible guilt. The wording was no doubt carefully managed.
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                              • Bornadog
                                WOOF Clubhouse Leader
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 66687

                                #30
                                Re: AFL targets Essendon Royalty

                                Originally posted by Scraggers
                                I would love to see the transcript ... My recollection was an admission.

                                I take your point though, trying to get a fair trial anywhere (other than Airport West) will be impossible.
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