AFL targets Essendon Royalty

[westdog54]

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Essendon should use it's brains and except it was wrong, lose all it's points this year be aide it means nothing they are shot, by stretching it out means they will probably be deducted points next year and this will hurt more than losing points this year .

Have been saying this for a month or so now.

[chef]

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AOD is still banned under S0 clarification. It is not considered fit for human consumption and therefore illegal under ASADA/WADA code

Not at the time Essendon took it apparently.

[westdog54]

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Not at the time Essendon took it apparently.

The S0 Classification has always been there.

Its not ASADA's fault if Essendon asked them the wrong question.

[chef]

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The S0 Classification has always been there.

Its not ASADA's fault if Essendon asked them the wrong question.

But they didn't ask the wrong question did they?

Seems asada stuffed up, it was under S2 at the time Essendon took it.

[A Ford]

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Correct me if wrong but according to The Age reports the question was asked in Feb 2013 and not in 2012 when they allegedly took the stuff.

Also the way it reads is he said she said.
Garnham of the afl asked asada.
Probably a bombers fan

[westdog54]

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But they didn't ask the wrong question did they?

Seems asada stuffed up, it was under S2 at the time Essendon took it.

Source? Link?

[chef]

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Source? Link?

Can't link on my phone but there's an article on the age website. Plus what they were saying on 360.

[Eastdog]

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Here is the article from the Age about it.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/asada-told-afl-drug-not-banned-20130820-2s9lh.html

[jeemak]

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Correct me if wrong but according to The Age reports the question was asked in Feb 2013 and not in 2012 when they allegedly took the stuff.

Also the way it reads is he said she said.
Garnham of the afl asked asada.
Probably a bombers fan

Correct, as shown in the link ED provided.

WADA has stated the substance is prohibited, and always has been prohibited.

[Go_Dogs]

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This whole saga is starting to give me a headache....

Really looking forward to some clarity and final determinations because at the moment it's just a bunch of things being pushed out to further muddy the waters and make it very hard to get a read on which way it's going to end.

[The Pie Man]

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That ASADA's advice doesn't mirror WADA's is just unforgivable.

I can't see how Essendon can be punished for AOD9604 use when they were directed to their local body (ASADA) who it seems have monumentally botched this up.

[Eastdog]

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It certainly changes the whole thing a bit if ASADA says it was not a prohibited substance.

[Ozza]

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If ASADA had ok'd AOD9604 to Essendon - why would they put their hands up in February and say 'We might have done something wrong - you should investigate us".

AOD9604 is not the issue. Its the other substances which have been covered up.

It would be incredibly naive to think that AOD9604 is the only supplement Essendon players have had injected into them.

[jeemak]

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Tim Watson lashing out at the media outlets hysterically reporting on the substances issue, claiming they should come clean with what they know about the substances consumed by players to allay fears of players, their families etc.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tim-watson-slams-afl-media-over-supplements-crisis-20130821-2sa27.html

Within this article is detail on WADA's position on AOD 9604. Kevin Bartlett calling for the AFL to clarify the position on that particular substance is further demonstration of the ignorance of the populist commentators lending opinion on this issue. The AFL has nothing to do with determining if substances are legal, or not.

The fact Watson is pleading for the media to come clean on these substances points the finger fairly and squarely at the Essendon FC for its poor governance in incompetence. If those running the club had their shit together, they'd be able to allay the fears of Watson and other parents of players. But they can't.

This is what the AFL will have to punish the Essendon FC and those managing it for. The fact they don't know what the bloody hell was happening to the players in 2011 and 2012 is the problem the AFL has to deal with. WADA and ASADA will work out the issues surrounding the legality of the substances.

[Ghost Dog]

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Well said Jeemak. And when you have wives of players stressing out over possible congenital birth defects, it certainly puts things to a harsh perspective; all footy clubs need to keep accurate records of these powerful chemicals.