ASADA issues show-cause notices to Essendon players

[whythelongface]

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Its worth noting that WADA has lost both appeals it has made on Australian matters.

What were those appeals against? Was it more individual cases? Thinking the athlete that drank loads of coffee can't remember his name.

[Dancin' Douggy]

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WADA to appeal the Essendon decision to the court of arbitration for sport. Interesting.

https://www.wada-ama.org/en/media/ne...t-on-afl-cases

Hallalujiah. Load more misery and scandal and shame upon the lousy cheats.

[bulldogtragic]

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Hope Crammers doesn't regret not taking the slap on the wrist.

[Twodogs]

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McDevitt ought to be made to fund this appeal out of his own funds. This has now gone beyond justice and into cruel and unusual punishment. A police officer should never ever have been put in charge of this investigation. There is a reason why we have a seperation of powers.


WADA is a joke. Its completely lost the plot.

[Sedat]

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Hope Crammers doesn't regret not taking the slap on the wrist.

First thing I thought.

It's a pretty simple question we all need to ask. Do we want a clean sport free of performance enhancing drugs or not? I definitely do. WADA are the global watchdog entrusted to try and keep all sports clean - without them the likes of Lance Armstrong would still have 6 tour victories. I'm personally very glad they have the chance to review once and for all whether or not Essendon have cheated, and through a process that will not be artificially tainted or manipulated by hopelessly conflicted organisations like the AFL and various media outlets.

The great irony in this case is that the shredded evidence was what got Essendon a reprieve at the AFL tribunal, and this lack of evidence is likely to have the opposite effect in the CAS. Worth remembering that Armstrong was ultimately charged on circumstantial evidence and never once failed a drug test.

[Sedat]

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WADA is a joke. Its completely lost the plot.

Twodogs, they haven't even been involved in this case until today. By all means pot ASADA for being inept/lacking resources but this is the first time WADA has stepped up to the plate.

[FrediKanoute]

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Its worth noting that WADA has lost both appeals it has made on Australian matters.

Not surprising and I can't really see this making much difference. At the end of the day WADA will have to show that the players took a banned substance - there remains no direct evidence. The CAS will come to the same conclusion.

What we could hope for is strong criticism of the Essendon regime and the AFL's handling. In particular the rushed sanctions handed out in 2012/13.

[FrediKanoute]

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First thing I thought.

It's a pretty simple question we all need to ask. Do we want a clean sport free of performance enhancing drugs or not? I definitely do. WADA are the global watchdog entrusted to try and keep all sports clean - without them the likes of Lance Armstrong would still have 6 tour victories. I'm personally very glad they have the chance to review once and for all whether or not Essendon have cheated, and through a process that will not be artificially tainted or manipulated by hopelessly conflicted organisations like the AFL and various media outlets.

The great irony in this case is that the shredded evidence was what got Essendon a reprieve at the AFL tribunal, and this lack of evidence is likely to have the opposite effect in the CAS. Worth remembering that Armstrong was ultimately charged on circumstantial evidence and never once failed a drug test.

Armsrong though also had people queuing up to testify against him he had f*cked over so many people along the way.

[jeemak]

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Armsrong though also had people queuing up to testify against him he had f*cked over so many people along the way.

I struggle to see how things can change unless a whistle blower comes forward.

[Maddog37]

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No worries then. Let's inject our players with whatever jungle juice we want, burn the evidence and all is good.

[Twodogs]

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Twodogs, they haven't even been involved in this case until today. By all means pot ASADA for being inept/lacking resources but this is the first time WADA has stepped up to the plate.

Wasn't it WADA who pushed for McDevitt's appointment? I thought I remember hearing or reading that somewhere.

My problem is that the process has gone past justice to politics. What matters from here on in is point scoring and positioning. Those things have no place in a justice system.

[ledge]

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Here is the point, the AFL tribunal said you had to prove which drug was taken, the new court just has to be convinced the players knew what they were taking and have evidence of what they took and they can't.
This isn't a group charge it's individual, every player must have paperwork or proof of what they took and they already have said they don't have any evidence to prove what they took was legal, there fore they will be found guilty because you can't just say you have no records.

[ledge]

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Personally I want the club and Hird to go down they caused all this.

[Bornadog]

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Here is the point, the AFL tribunal said you had to prove which drug was taken, the new court just has to be convinced the players knew what they were taking and have evidence of what they took and they can't.
This isn't a group charge it's individual, every player must have paperwork or proof of what they took and they already have said they don't have any evidence to prove what they took was legal, there fore they will be found guilty because you can't just say you have no records.

But there is no paperwork or proof of what they took was illegal.

[Remi Moses]

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On E-Bay one second hand shredder
Contact Essendon Football club .
Like how Jimmsy claims the verdict was " emphatic" !!!
Pleeeease!