List Management 2015

[boydogs]

Re: List Management 2015

I like Carlisle more as a forward, which is where we would need him, yet he is said to prefer us as he could be a permanent defender. I don't think he is worth pick 10 purely in defense

[The Doctor]

Re: List Management 2015

I'd go for Carlisle for sure and pass on Dangerfield. However I would also go for Hannebury in the 2016 free agency.

It's so hard to build a spine and Dalrymple has not delivered any KP players of certain AFL quality as yet. I'm excited by the prospect of Talia and Roberts coming good and the acquisition of Hamling looks a shrewd move but none as yet are established, whereas Carlisle is and would be the first key defender chosen.

I'd pass on Dangerfield. i'd love to have him but the cost would be enormous. We can use the draft to find quick midfielders and good ball users more easily than KPP.

I think a player like Hannebury would be worth having a crack at in 2016. A premiership player to add experience and leadership to an emerging midfield would be fantastic for us.

[Twodogs]

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I don't know about Dangerfield. If we pay him a lot, then Bontempelli, Stringer, Macrae and the rest of a hopefully rapidly improving list will need to be paid a lot too

[stefoid]

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I suppose the argument to the last point is that you do need early picks to find 'complete' midfielders who are relatively quick, strong, ball winners with good disposal.

I think Webb is our best bet there - I hope he can transition to being a member of our small army of mid/fwds. I see Macrae becoming more of a contested ball winner while Webb and possibly one or two of Hamilton/Dale/Daniel providing outside polish.

Our 2014 draft haul looks like hitting the target we aimed at in 2009 when we drafted Howard and Tutt and @$#@ it up instead.

[1eyedog]

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I don't know about Dangerfield. If we pay him a lot, then Bontempelli, Stringer, Macrae and the rest of a hopefully rapidly improving list will need to be paid a lot too

True and I don't know about any Essendon player either, unless until WADA is finished with them.

[Twodogs]

Re: List Management 2015

I've meant to add the WADA rider too. Who knows what they will do!

[Dry Rot]

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I've meant to add the WADA rider too. Who knows what they will do!

I'm pretty confident Carlisle and 33 other past and present Bombers won't be playing for 2 seasons.

So for me, pass on Carlisle.

FWIW, there are two rumours on BF that Hunter wants out, and Carlisle has interest in going to the Blues.

[The Bulldogs Bite]

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I'm pretty confident Carlisle and 33 other past and present Bombers won't be playing for 2 seasons.

So for me, pass on Carlisle.

FWIW, there are two rumours on BF that Hunter wants out, and Carlisle has interest in going to the Blues.

I can't see a position in our side for him so I'd be happy to trade him out.

[Ozza]

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I'm not 100% on Carlisle as a player. He has some good attributes, but also some that worry me.
The best between his best and worse is still quite a gap, at 24 years of age. He is great in the air, but not a great kick.
I also don't like hearing that he wants out of Essendon because they aren't playing him where he likes to play. If we got him, and things weren't working with our team balance and needed him to shift forward - is he going to be disgruntled with us too?

Happy enough to have him, but wouldn't like to see us go in guns blazing for him (Trade & $'s wise).

[Twodogs]

Re: List Management 2015

I'm pretty confident Carlisle and 33 other past and present Bombers won't be playing for 2 seasons.

So for me, pass on Carlisle.

FWIW, there are two rumours on BF that Hunter wants out, and Carlisle has interest in going to the Blues.

I'd be 100% sure they'd be found not guilty under any sane legal system. Just can't pick this three ring circus though so a no from me too.

Paying a player millions of dollars is just the sort of thing that would happen to us. I am 100% certain of that.

[1eyedog]

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Everyone needs to remember that Dangerfield is a RESTRICTED free agent. That means that Adelaide can hold onto him by simply matching an offer to him. This means the deal would need to be a mega offer.

Free Agency is there to top up with older, unrestricted free agents once the project is 95% complete. We're not at that point as yet. We'd be far better placed to just keep drafting and developing at this stage. Trading is the way to go at this point, but only at the right price.

Norf overspent on Higgins, only to realise it effectively squeezed out Greenwood. Greenwood is more of a loss than Higgins is a gain for them. Restricted free agents come at top dollar. Unrestricted free agents are where the value is. Problem for us is it's too early to go down that path.

Don't bet on it Webby I think we are closer than you, we all, think.

[Greystache]

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I'd be 100% sure they'd be found not guilty under any sane legal system. Just can't pick this three ring circus though so a no from me too

Are you saying the international Court of Arbitration for Sport is a three ring circus but you were comfortable with the legitimacy of the AFL finding it's own club not guilty of doping?

[GVGjr]

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FWIW, there are two rumours on BF that Hunter wants out, and Carlisle has interest in going to the Blues.

Good source or just speculation that Hunter not getting a regular game means he is wanting out?

[Avoid the rush]

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Good source or just speculation that Hunter not getting a regular game means he is wanting out?

Would hope that Lauchie would put his head down and work his but off to reclaim his spot in the side....He was given number 7.....Obviously brainstrust just want him to want IT!......not spit it and move on.!!!

[Twodogs]

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Are you saying the international Court of Arbitration for Sport is a three ring circus but you were comfortable with the legitimacy of the AFL finding it's own club not guilty of doping?

Yep to the first part, not comfortably satisfied as to anything really with the second.