Scott Clayton - Recruiting guru or an inflated reputation?

[Mofra]

Re: Scott Clayton - Recruiting guru or an inflated reputation?

Do you think Hall may have stunted Whites growth? I suggest you watch the game against St Kilda 2 weeks back, kicked 3 missed a few, kicked the last goal of the game. Looked ok again on Sunday allbeit against Richmond.

I didn't think much of him against Richmond. Dropped a Monty, presents on very long leads (unless that's his role in the team he wont hurt too many teams doing that) and doesn't appear overly agile.
To be honest he looks like a ruckman that's pushed forward.

[ledge]

Re: Scott Clayton - Recruiting guru or an inflated reputation?

I didn't think much of him against Richmond. Dropped a Monty, presents on very long leads (unless that's his role in the team he wont hurt too many teams doing that) and doesn't appear overly agile.
To be honest he looks like a ruckman that's pushed forward.

Well he certainly does a lot better than our ruckmen when they push forward , maybe they should watch his game?

[Mofra]

Re: Scott Clayton - Recruiting guru or an inflated reputation?

Well he certainly does a lot better than our ruckmen when they push forward , maybe they should watch his game?

Hudson rarely pushes forward and Minson doesn't spend that much time down there either.

Tempted to throw Skipper in the ruck and leave Minson forward but that is something that would have happened this season already if Eade liked the idea.

[Desipura]

Re: Scott Clayton - Recruiting guru or an inflated reputation?

I didn't think much of him against Richmond. Dropped a Monty, presents on very long leads (unless that's his role in the team he wont hurt too many teams doing that) and doesn't appear overly agile.

He looked agile to me. If you can continously run off your opponent and turn him inside out as he did against Carlton, I think you have something to work with.

[Rocket Science]

Re: Scott Clayton - Recruiting guru or an inflated reputation?

Remember the advertisements for the non alcoholic 'beverage' Clayton's?
Jack Thompson, I believe featured in them.

"'Claytons' the drink for when you're not having a drink"

Well I think we have a case of "Clayton's Talls."

" The talls for when you're not having a tall"

Aside from Brian Lake, Clayton's eye for tall players is woeful.

I won't name names because the list is so long and you've heard them all before,

But my big fear now is that Everitt, Grant & Williams will just add to the list of "Clayton's Talls"

Someone please tell me I'm wrong. PLEASE!

Oddly enough, had precisely the same thought when watching a replay of the game which featured regular frames of our completely empty forward-50 at various stages.

This gag must have been made before, but I thought; my god, it's a 'Clayton's' forward line...the forward line you have when you don't have a forward line! (and happen to have a trio of regulars sidelined through injury I suppose).

That said, we've managed to accrue a higher total score than anyone else this season. Go figure.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: Scott Clayton - Recruiting guru or an inflated reputation?

Oddly enough, had precisely the same thought when watching a replay of the game which featured regular frames of our completely empty forward-50 at various stages.

This gag must have been made before, but I thought; my god, it's a 'Clayton's' forward line...the forward line you have when you don't have a forward line! (and happen to have a trio of regulars sidelined through injury I suppose).

That said, we've managed to accrue a higher total score than anyone else this season. Go figure.

Our mids don't run hard enough the other way. Thus, they don't support our defence. Like Aker said on he ouch last week, we don't have to wory about offence, we kick winning scores, that isn't a concern. It's our ability to run back the other and pressure the opposition and help out the back 6. Our back 6 isn't too bad, Lake, Morris, Hargy, Gilbs, Tommy (?), Harbrow. So why can't Cooney, Griff and co run back the other way and do the job - that is the $1,00,000 question of which the answer leads to more success...

[Rocket Science]

Re: Scott Clayton - Recruiting guru or an inflated reputation?

Certainly in big picture terms the phantom forward line doesn't seem to impede our scoring, but I find it sometimes hurts down the other end by virtue of the unnecessary pressure it creates through the guts when players in possession are forced to tap dance while waiting for the cavalry, which often leads to some inventive (read: unconvincing) avenues forward, and worse, to turnovers which invariably cost goals.

Simply a product of our structure I suppose.

Agreed, I don't mind the makeup of our back six...they're very capable when not deluged and robbed of assistance.

[Remi Moses]

Re: Scott Clayton - Recruiting guru or an inflated reputation?

Remember the advertisements for the non alcoholic 'beverage' Clayton's?
Jack Thompson, I believe featured in them.

"'Claytons' the drink for when you're not having a drink"

Well I think we have a case of "Clayton's Talls."

" The talls for when you're not having a tall"

Aside from Brian Lake, Clayton's eye for tall players is woeful.

I won't name names because the list is so long and you've heard them all before,

But my big fear now is that Everitt, Grant & Williams will just add to the list of "Clayton's Talls"

Someone please tell me I'm wrong. PLEASE!

Agree that Clayton's talls have been ordinary,although I'd hold fire on the above mentioned players. personally 2010 is going to tell us alot

[LostDoggy]

Re: Scott Clayton - Recruiting guru or an inflated reputation?

I have no doubt Higgins is way better than The "doubting"Thomas who Collingwood took instead, even if he has played more games.

Pendlebury is a quality footballer though.

[GVGjr]

Re: Scott Clayton - Recruiting guru or an inflated reputation?

I didn't think much of him against Richmond. Dropped a Monty, presents on very long leads (unless that's his role in the team he wont hurt too many teams doing that) and doesn't appear overly agile.

He looked agile to me. If you can continously run off your opponent and turn him inside out as he did against Carlton, I think you have something to work with.

Why note quote the post rather than copy and pasting it?

[BulldogBelle]

Re: Scott Clayton - Recruiting guru or an inflated reputation?

Next Best Available Policy.

What's all this talk about picking or not picking talls. All you guys know that our draft selection policy was to go for the next best available player. We never picked players for positions, never went for talls if we needed them for the team. It was always that wouldn't we be crying if we missed out on a gun fielder if we took a chance on a tall.

It was always that we would be able to trade one of our gun mid-fielders for a tall if necesary.

The fact that we don't have enough decent talls in the side is a result of our flawed plan to go for the next best rather than to shop for what we needed.

Should have traded Cross last year and got a decent tall.

[AndrewP6]

Re: Scott Clayton - Recruiting guru or an inflated reputation?

Should we looking at ex basketballers as opposed to ex rugby players whose peripheral vision initially is not as strong? Baskeballers not only have good peripheral vision, they also have sticky fingers. Of course there are hits and misses........

Is that a vote of confidence for the great game of basketball? WHOO HOO!!!

[LostDoggy]

Re: Scott Clayton - Recruiting guru or an inflated reputation?

Next Best Available Policy.

What's all this talk about picking or not picking talls. All you guys know that our draft selection policy was to go for the next best available player. We never picked players for positions, never went for talls if we needed them for the team. It was always that wouldn't we be crying if we missed out on a gun fielder if we took a chance on a tall.

It was always that we would be able to trade one of our gun mid-fielders for a tall if necesary.

The fact that we don't have enough decent talls in the side is a result of our flawed plan to go for the next best rather than to shop for what we needed.

Should have traded Cross last year and got a decent tall.

Hawthorn done the opposite to us, and won a flag.

[BulldogBelle]

Re: Scott Clayton - Recruiting guru or an inflated reputation?

Hawthorn done the opposite to us, and won a flag.

Agree. Its easier to make a small compared to a tall.