The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

[GVGjr]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

The trade the club deems a win. We've been stockpiling players with a view to trading for need when required. I'm sure a few clubs would be interested in him, and he's yet to ink a deal.

It's hard to put a value on that which allows for a good discussion.
I'd prefer to hear about something tangible than a concept that the club will get a good enough deal to justify it.

While I'd prefer him to stay but if he was to leave I'd want an early 2nd round pick in exchange for his services. I'd then try and trade for a midfielder with a penetrating kick with some of the currency we will have.

We lack some experience and losing Stevens if he was to leave would expose that a bit more.

[jeemak]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

You can get a good player at 30. You can also get duds.

I'd be happy with a pick around 20 for Stevens.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

It's hard to put a value on that which allows for a good discussion.
I'd prefer to hear about something tangible than a concept that the club will get a good enough deal to justify it.

While I'd prefer him to stay but if he was to leave I'd want an early 2nd round pick in exchange for his services. I'd then try and trade for a midfielder with a penetrating kick with some of the currency we will have.

We lack some experience and losing Stevens if he was to leave would expose that a bit more.

20-25 would be ideal. Or perhaps used in a multi club trade that nets us a player that can add a new skill set to the team.

[lemmon]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

Stevens was mentioned s having real currency. GCS have picks in the mid-low 20's which will get pushed back with free agency compo, academy and father-sons. GCS wanted him last year, they can have him this year for said pick.

I'd want something in the high teens for Stevens, we saw last week what he is at his best and he takes on more responsibility now without Wally

[GVGjr]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

20-25 would be ideal. Or perhaps used in a multi club trade that nets us a player that can add a new skill set to the team.

Can I ask why you want him specifically to be traded?

[bulldogtragic]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

I'd want something in the high teens for Stevens, we saw last week what he is at his best and he takes on more responsibility now without Wally

Sorry, Jong for the GCS pick. Stevens 20-25, or a multi club trade that nets us a win (ie Hurley).

[bulldogtragic]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

Can I ask why you want him specifically to be traded?

Currency. To get something of value, we need to offer something of value. We have his sort in bountiful supply, and at some point we need to trade for need. We won't get a decent player/pick offering Jong & Hamling around. It's not personal with him, he's the obvious choice to me, he's also not contracted for 2017.

[jeemak]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

I tend to agree with the thinking. We can't expect to secure value by dishing up ordinary and or inexperienced players.

[lemmon]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

Currency. To get something of value, we need to offer something of value. We have his sort in bountiful supply, and at some point we need to trade for need. We won't get a decent player/pick offering Jong & Hamling around. It's not personal with him, he's the obvious choice to me, he's also not contracted for 2017.

Does cap space have a say in it too? When Libba is playing in the forward pocket we've clearly got too many inside mids. Jong is probably worth 250k on the market, Kobe is 450k...that extra 200k is a lot to justify when we have such a glut of inside mids.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

Does cap space have a say in it too? When Libba is playing in the forward pocket we've clearly got too many inside mids. Jong is probably worth 250k on the market, Kobe is 450k...that extra 200k is a lot to justify when we have such a glut of inside mids.

Exactly. Say the rumours re true that Hurley is interested, but gets offers much, much over ours (as per Richmonds alleged offer). If we get something good for Kobe, and the salary space to be Hurley's destination (even if a little less than Richmond) then that's a huge win. We desperately need an AA KPD and could get one, we don't desperately need Koby. It's not a nice thing to talk about cutting guys, but we all knew when stockpiling inside mids that we would need to trade one or two eventually.

[bulldogtragic]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

Where's Matty Boyd at? Is he an instant extension right now?

[GVGjr]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

Where's Matty Boyd at? Is he an instant extension right now?

You know, it's going to be hard to be realistic with the ins and outs for next year. We are just having too many LT injuries to consider before making the decisions.

My gut feel is if he wants to stay he should stay. His form has been good enough

[Bornadog]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

Where's Matty Boyd at? Is he an instant extension right now?

I know he is still playing well as is Moz, but at some stage they are going to slow down. Both turn 34 this year.

[GVGjr]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

I know he is still playing well as is Moz, but at some stage they are going to slow down. Both turn 34 this year.

The plan was to rest Morris, Boyd and Murphy this year but our revolving door with injuries to players meant that Morris and Boyd have played a few games more than expected and have done well.

Do you think we would be better, worse or about the same on the ladder if we had moved them on last year?

[Bornadog]

Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

The plan was to rest Morris, Boyd and Murphy this year but our revolving door with injuries to players meant that Morris and Boyd have played a few games more than expected and have done well.

Do you think we would be better, worse or about the same on the ladder if we had moved them on last year?

They have been terrific. I think we would have been worse without them.

It is hard to tell when these players should be retired off. These days players seem to be able to go longer whereas in the past anyone hitting 31 were deemed too old. I think it is the same with lots of sports now, through better training, diet, and overall fitness.