The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34316

    Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

    Originally posted by Rocco Jones
    If we get Hurley, I think Hamling should be delisted/rookied.

    With the Beveridge style, we only play 3 tall defenders if they really warrant spot. We will have...

    First choice- Hurley, Adams, Morris/Wood combo

    Replace Morris/back ups- Collins, Z Cordy, Roberts.
    Hadn't thought about that, but it's a great point. Hamling would be last of those 8 players, so he get cut then. I'm not sure about the rookie list spot as I posted above, I think it clogs that list. Although if the rookie list is abolished that could change a few things up.
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    • Mofra
      Hall of Fame
      • Dec 2006
      • 14883

      Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

      Originally posted by Rocco Jones
      First choice- Hurley, Adams, Morris/Wood combo
      At 186cm Wood must be the shortest tall defender in the modern era.
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      • Rocco Jones
        Bulldog Team of the Century
        • Jun 2008
        • 6924

        Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

        Originally posted by Mofra
        At 186cm Wood must be the shortest tall defender in the modern era.
        Yeah, I think it's about who is around him. You can't have him as #1 tall defender but if we have one bigger body and another guy who can negate a tall, it's fine.

        I find fans are obsessed with height. Worst case scenario for a shorter defender is a one on one. I would still back Easton over Hamling or Roberts easily. The thing is, he is better with freedom to be intercept marker though. Such a gun!

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        • Mofra
          Hall of Fame
          • Dec 2006
          • 14883

          Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

          Originally posted by Rocco Jones
          Yeah, I think it's about who is around him. You can't have him as #1 tall defender but if we have one bigger body and another guy who can negate a tall, it's fine.

          I find fans are obsessed with height. Worst case scenario for a shorter defender is a one on one. I would still back Easton over Hamling or Roberts easily. The thing is, he is better with freedom to be intercept marker though. Such a gun!
          I think it goes the other way too - worried about being too "top heavy" if our defenders demanding game time are tall.

          Morris could play short and Adams & Zaine Cordy aren't slow and can use the ball well so there are times where we can go taller in the backline and still play well.

          I wouldn't mind an Aaron Francis type on the list though - a genuine Moz sized rebounder who can go third man up. Just seems that type would fit our gameplan beautifully.
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          • ledge
            Hall of Fame
            • Dec 2007
            • 14186

            Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

            His dad is rollo
            Bring back the biff

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            • Rocco Jones
              Bulldog Team of the Century
              • Jun 2008
              • 6924

              Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

              Originally posted by Mofra
              I think it goes the other way too - worried about being too "top heavy" if our defenders demanding game time are tall.

              Morris could play short and Adams & Zaine Cordy aren't slow and can use the ball well so there are times where we can go taller in the backline and still play well.

              I wouldn't mind an Aaron Francis type on the list though - a genuine Moz sized rebounder who can go third man up. Just seems that type would fit our gameplan beautifully.
              Yeah I am constantly about not placing too much value on height alone.

              I think you need to play at least one guy who can go with the bigger bodied forwards, Fletcher Roberts is getting a game on that basis now that Adams is out. Other than that, I think you go with your best overall defensive unit. Really important to play mobile, smart players to fit into our team defence structure. Adams, Woods, Morris and Z Cordy all seem a good fit for the way we structure down back. Collins and Roberts really fighting for the same spot to replace an injury at the moment until they can either add mobility or force way in on own right through form.

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              • Mantis
                Hall of Fame
                • Apr 2007
                • 15340

                Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

                Originally posted by Rocco Jones
                Yeah I am constantly about not placing too much value on height alone.

                I think you need to play at least one guy who can go with the bigger bodied forwards, Fletcher Roberts is getting a game on that basis now that Adams is out. Other than that, I think you go with your best overall defensive unit. Really important to play mobile, smart players to fit into our team defence structure. Adams, Woods, Morris and Z Cordy all seem a good fit for the way we structure down back. Collins and Roberts really fighting for the same spot to replace an injury at the moment until they can either add mobility or force way in on own right through form.
                Is Adams actually proven as someone who can go with the 'big guys'?

                I wouldn't have thought so.

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                • Rocco Jones
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • Jun 2008
                  • 6924

                  Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

                  Originally posted by Mantis
                  Is Adams actually proven as someone who can go with the 'big guys'?

                  I wouldn't have thought so.
                  Roberts nor Adams are proven to go with the big guys. More saying they are our best hope at doing so.

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                  • EasternWest
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Aug 2009
                    • 9999

                    Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

                    I think we look at trading Stevens and Hunter. Both players have good currency. In Stevens case we've got a heap of inside mids, and in Hunter's case I'm just over his disposal.

                    We need good ball users.
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                    • bulldogtragic
                      The List Manager
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 34316

                      Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

                      Originally posted by EasternWest
                      I think we look at trading Stevens and Hunter. Both players have good currency. In Stevens case we've got a heap of inside mids, and in Hunter's case I'm just over his disposal.

                      We need good ball users.
                      Agreed, Hunter just signed for three years so he won't be going anywhere I'd bet. Stevens I'd trade right now for the right price. We need Hurley about 3 hours ago, so if that's what it takes...
                      Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                      • GVGjr
                        Moderator
                        • Nov 2006
                        • 44410

                        Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

                        Originally posted by bulldogtragic
                        Agreed, Hunter just signed for three years so he won't be going anywhere I'd bet. Stevens I'd trade right now for the right price. We need Hurley about 3 hours ago, so if that's what it takes...
                        What is the right price you have on Stevens?
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                        • bulldogtragic
                          The List Manager
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 34316

                          Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          What is the right price you have on Stevens?
                          The trade the club deems a win. We've been stockpiling players with a view to trading for need when required. I'm sure a few clubs would be interested in him, and he's yet to ink a deal.
                          Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                          • lemmon
                            Bulldog Team of the Century
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 6508

                            Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

                            Tonight said more about Jong than Stevens for me. Fumbly, poor decisions, panics - he's not what we need. A pick around 30 gets that deal done

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                            • bulldogtragic
                              The List Manager
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 34316

                              Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

                              Originally posted by lemmon
                              Tonight said more about Jong than Stevens for me. Fumbly, poor decisions, panics - he's not what we need. A pick around 30 gets that deal done
                              Stevens was mentioned s having real currency. GCS have picks in the mid-low 20's which will get pushed back with free agency compo, academy and father-sons. GCS wanted him last year, they can have him this year for said pick.
                              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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                              • bulldogtragic
                                The List Manager
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 34316

                                Re: The Moving Rolling De-Listing/Trading Thread 2016

                                Originally posted by lemmon
                                Tonight said more about Jong than Stevens for me. Fumbly, poor decisions, panics - he's not what we need. A pick around 30 gets that deal done
                                Stevens was mentioned s having real currency. GCS have picks in the mid-low 20's which will get pushed back with free agency compo, academy and father-sons. GCS wanted him last year, they can have him this year for said pick.
                                Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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