Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

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  • bulldogtragic
    The List Manager
    • Jan 2007
    • 34289

    Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

    Originally posted by Dancin' Douggy
    It's a bit hard to follow, but they essentially still have Tim O'Brien on their list from the pick we swapped as well. Which was 27.
    Oh yeah. Then it's 72 games combined in that trade, with the number still going. Let's never discuss this again.
    Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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    • Dancin' Douggy
      WOOF Member
      • Oct 2007
      • 2876

      Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

      Originally posted by bulldogtragic
      Oh yeah. Then it's 72 games combined in that trade, with the number still going. Let's never discuss this again.
      It reeks

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      • bulldogtragic
        The List Manager
        • Jan 2007
        • 34289

        Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

        Any surprises in the next 35 minutes?
        Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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        • Bornadog
          WOOF Clubhouse Leader
          • Jan 2007
          • 66688

          Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

          Originally posted by bulldogtragic
          Any surprises in the next 35 minutes?
          Koby still in limbo?
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          Premierships: AFL 1954, 2016 VFA - 1898,99,1900, 1908, 1913, 1919-20, 1923-24, VFL: 2014, 2016 . Champions of Victoria 1924. AFLW - 2018.

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          • Bulldog Revolution
            Coaching Staff
            • Dec 2006
            • 3925

            Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

            Originally posted by bornadog
            Koby still in limbo?
            Maybe they havent offered 50 and so we're not committed for less

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            • bulldogtragic
              The List Manager
              • Jan 2007
              • 34289

              Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

              JOM, Lids, Marchbank, Richards, Pickett all not signed up yet.

              We have trade currency and salary cap.
              Rocket Science: the epitaph for the Beveridge era - whenever it ends - reading 'Here lies a team that could beat anyone on its day, but seldom did when it mattered most'. 15/7/2023

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              • G-Mo77
                Bulldog Team of the Century
                • Apr 2007
                • 9876

                Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

                Originally posted by bornadog
                Koby still in limbo?
                I heard this morning he's likely to be a DFA for the Saints.

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                • bulldogsthru&thru
                  Bulldog Team of the Century
                  • May 2011
                  • 7697

                  Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

                  Originally posted by G-Mo77
                  I heard this morning he's likely to be a DFA for the Saints.
                  That would be disappointing. He's near best 22 for us and to lose him for nothing would be a fair loss

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                  • G-Mo77
                    Bulldog Team of the Century
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9876

                    Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

                    Originally posted by bulldogsthru&thru
                    That would be disappointing. He's near best 22 for us and to lose him for nothing would be a fair loss
                    We may as well have done the same with Hrovat but looking through the other token trades for irrelevant picks we're not alone. Would love to get at least 50 for him. 15 minutes to go.....

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                    • LostDoggy
                      WOOF Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 8307

                      Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

                      Originally posted by bornadog
                      Koby still in limbo?
                      Did The 'Aints pick him up?

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                      • 1eyedog
                        Hall of Fame
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 13235

                        Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

                        Originally posted by redders70
                        Did The 'Aints pick him up?
                        Yep late pick.
                        But then again, I'm an Internet poster and Bevo is a premiership coach so draw your own conclusions.

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                        • LostDoggy
                          WOOF Member
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 8307

                          Re: Half Way Through The Trade Period - Where Are We Headed?

                          Originally posted by GVGjr
                          I don't get the "we won the flag and everything must be right" approach. To me complacency shouldn't be accepted.
                          We lose some of our depth with both Hrovat and Stevens likely to depart and of course a question mark on how long it will take Mitch Wallis to get back into good form next season. We also lose a lot of depth with Hamling's departure. Cloke covers Redpath and probably only improves things slightly.
                          A late reply but I'm just writing to agree with this. I've seen a few posts around saying things like it wouldn't matter if we lost every game next season we can still celebrate winning this year (I'm paraphrasing but you get the gist).

                          I don't want it to be another 60 years before we see another grand final. I'm sure when we were the best team in 1954 with some powerhouse players no one predicted that it would take us another 7 years to make another Grand Final, let alone another 62 years (!) to win a flag. It can fall apart very quickly. Leicester City are potentially fighting relegation this year, a season after they won the EPL.

                          Everything looks rosy now, but a club like the Dogs is only ever as strong as its on-field performance.. memberships and momentum will fall off very quickly if we don't make the finals next season -- even a club like Hawthorn that's won so much has had doom and gloom articles written about them since the finals, and in a tiny industry with lazy journos where perception very quickly becomes reality, we cannot afford to be seen as one-season wonders and written off again (which will happen very quickly if we're not winning consistently), which will very quickly lead to 'crisis' articles. Our increased profile is a double-edged sword, and as sure as the sun rises, the media builds things up only to tear them down.

                          At least Gordon and Beveridge made the right noises after the GF about building a dynasty and becoming respected, but there are a few signs (Libba's offseason most tellingly) that point to a possible premiership hangover next year. The football department have a real job ahead of them, without any early draft picks, to not let any blips turn into downward trends. Smart value pick-ups like Hawthorn did with Dew, Burgoyne, Lake et al will be crucial (I'm do think the Cloke trade was good business, and will be good to have Crameri and Murph back, but like you, I am very worried about our key defender depth.. Morris isn't going to be around forever). I was one of the ones saying prior to the finals that our 7th place this year wasn't a real 7th place (the top 7 were so close all year), but we did still finish 7th, so it's not like we were a powerhouse team blowing everyone away (although our team defence was clearly best-in-class all year, which gave me a lot of hope going into the finals). GWS will improve again, and the top 4 from this year aren't going anywhere.

                          Finals for the next five years at least are a must, top 4 finishes if possible. Another 2 premierships in the next ten years would be a huge achievement, and would set us up for the future nicely. If we don't win another one in the next ten years, we'll go back to being a smallish club (relatively speaking), just like North (although we do have demographics on our side). Anyway, just my thoughts.
                          Last edited by LostDoggy; 27-10-2016, 06:27 PM.

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